Ban Ragging, not Mobiles

Times of India ( http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2021544.cms ) reports that

The Chhattisgarh government has decided to ban cell phones on college and university campuses across the state. The decision came in the wake of allegations that a first-year student of Bilaspur Engineering College was photographed naked by her seniors during ragging in the hostel.

The seniors reportedly threatened to circulate the photographs via MMS when she refused to do certain sexual acts. The computer engineering student, who joined the college on August 2, is now undergoing treatment in the mental diseases department at the Bhim Rao Ambedkar Medical College in Raipur.

State higher education minister Ajay Chandrakar said on Friday, "We have made up our minds to ban use of cell phones on college campuses and a notice in this regard by the education department will be issued soon. We have been contemplating a ban on mobile phones in colleges since long."

The police is yet to register a case. Chandrakar, however, said, "This is a serious matter. There have been prior instances of this nature. We have set up a high-level panel to probe the matter and action will be taken against those found guilty."

Girl's father, a tailor from Dongargarh town, rushed to Bilaspur on August 25 when the warden of the hostel, where his daughter was staying called him to say that,"your daughter is not eating anything and she is also not attending classes. Please come here and get her treated".

"When I reached the hostel, she started crying. She said please take me home as they have said they will send my pictures via MMS," he said, adding, "The warden gave me a letter saying my daughter needs psychiatric help."

She was first taken to Manopchar Kendra, a hospital for mental illnesses, where she was given medicines. Since there was no improvement in her condition after 13 days, she was taken to Dongargarh Hospital and finally to Bhim Rao Ambedkar medical college.

"My daughter has gone through a lot of pain without any fault of her. She is the eldest of my five children and she is brilliant. She secured 144 out of 200 in the pre-engineering test and got admission in the prestigious engineering college," he said.

Though I support banning mobiles inside classrooms (labs / library etc) and permit them in hostel, this ban baffles me.

So according to the news report

1. It is "correct" to rag a junior - No rule has been passed
2. It is "right" for boys to strip a girl nude. - still no mention about legislation for this
3. You can take photo with your camera -

BUT
you cannot take photo with mobile phones ....
Horrible

As one friend remarked "These should all be treated as full criminal cases. If you strip a woman anywhere against her will, you can go to jail. But if you do it in college and call it ragging, somehow people treat it more lightly."

When are they (in Chattisgarh) going to act in this regard.

May be after some one dies (like the boy pictured below)


" On Deepavali day, November 10, Madras University vice-chancellor, Dr.P.K.Ponnuswamy and his wife were worried about the whereabouts of their 17- year old son, Pon Naavarasu. Little did they know that the first-year medical student of the Raja Muthiah Medical College, Annamalai University, Chidambaram, Tamil Nadu, had been brutally done to death on November 6. A third year medical student … later confessed to the killing. Naavarasu had refused to submit to… a humiliating demand, in the name of ragging, to lick the soles of his chappals. The 19-year old senior used his karate skills to fatally attack Naavarasu. He then dismembered the body, cut it into pieces with surgical instruments and dispensed with them in different parts of the state…" - FRONTLINE, December 13, 1996.

What do you study during MBBS

Of late a lot of guys are mailing me from abroad asking details about MBBS and how to do residency etc . This post is for them

MBBS

You enter here after your School (School in India is 14 years including 2 Year Kinder Garden. You enter Standard 1 after completion of 5 years and study till 12th. After 12th you enter college - whether it is engineering or arts or law or commerce or medical)

MBBS Course

4 and half years........

I MBBS
Where you read Anatomy , Physiology and Biochemistry for one year. Only when you pass this exam, you are allowed to go to II MBBS

II MBBS
You read Pathology , Pharmacology , Microbiology and Forensic Medicine for one and half years. After clearing all this 4 subjects you go to III MBBS. The lecture classes of these subjects will be in the afternoon. In the morning you will be attending Medicine Surgery and other wards

III MBBS or Final MBBS - Part IOne Year
You read SPM, ENT and Opthal and pass that
The lecture classes of these subjects will be in the afternoon. In the morning you will be attending Medicine Surgery and other wards
ENT and Opthal Wards will also be in the morning

III MBBS or Final MBBS - Part IOne Year
Theory and Wards on Medicine, Surgery, OG and Paediatrics
Only if you pass, you are allowed into internship

Intership 1 year after 4.5 yearsYou work in the hospital attached to the medical college.

When you "pass" all the papers in Final MBBS part II, YOu are allowed to do your internship.

After you complete your internship (0ne full year), you will be given the DEGREE and will be given a registration number by the Medical Council of India.

Then you can practise

If you want to specialise in Surgery, you have to do 3 year post graduation MS General Surgery. For that you have to write an entrance exam and get a good rank there.

If you want to specialise in Paediatrics , you have to do 3 year post graduation MD Paediatrics . For that you have to write an entrance exam and get a good rank there.

An MD guys spents 3 years (studying MD) AFTER Completing 5 and half years as MBBS

An MS guys spents 3 years (studying MS) AFTER Completing 5 and half years as MBBS

So in fact MD Guys spent 8 and half years in total
So in fact MS Guys spent 8 and half years in total

An DM Guy spends 3 years (studying DM ) after MD
An MCh Guy spends 3 years (studying MCh ) after MS

So in fact DM Guys spent 11 and half years in total
So in fact MCh Guys spent 11 and half years in total

is it clear

MD = MBBS + MD
MS = MBBS + MS

DM = MD + DM
or DM = MBBS + MD + DM
MCh = MS + MCh
or MCh = MBBS + MS + MCh

So MD is superior to MBBS and DM is superior to MD

1 Comments:

At 6:20 AM, Ramadoss Magesh said…

Hi Bruno,

Though am visiting ur site and commenting on it the first time..i have read views on various issues in Badri's blog regularly. I particularly liked the comment you have maded on the polio vaccination drive, about the primary health care systems in place in TamilNadu..

As regards to comment on this post..am just curious..why is this BDS a five course while specialisation to most other body parts are a post graduate why is this exclusivity for teeth..i assume its just for historical reasns..or is there something else to it..

Best regards,
Magesh

Misconceptions about Surgery

This is in response to http://mscongenialityforall.blogspot.com/2006/09/while-vasoolraja-can-become-doctor.html


While there are many valid points, I would like to highlight few points which are wrong
//They were asked to take x-ray and scan which were not required for this operation (information courtesy: a colleague of hers who underwent the same operation in another hospital).//
This is a wrong statement. The colleague is not going to operate. The requirement of Scan and X-Ray are decided on a case-to-case basis by the concerned surgeon. I am not justifying that the investigations was required in this case(as I have not seen the patient), but if some one says that scan is not needed because "one colleague with same problem told me" that is down right stupid. Remember that most of the complicated cases we see are due to wrong advices from Friends/Relatives. Also remember that your colleague has seen ONLY ONE case of appendicitis and the doctor would have seen a lot more. May be you ask your colleague about Retrocaval appendix or Artery of Seshachalam. Let us see what she knows about that.
//Just before she was taken to the operation theatre, by chance, her mother enquired about the operation and she was in for a shock!!! They informed that they were going to do open surgery!!!!!!//
If the mother had read the "forms" before signing, there would not have been any shock at all. In cases of Laparoscopic surgeries, a consent is included for Laparotomy (Opening the abdomen). Hence there is no need for "Shock".

But, if the decision was taken due to other reason (not in the interest of patient), that is a big crime.

What has happened here, I don't know, but, please note that there is no need for a "Shock". Even if they start as Laparoscopy, if there are adhesions, it will be converted to Open Surgery in theatre.

//Once the operation was over, they dumped her in some General Ward with many such patients//
It is not General Ward. It is called as Post Operative Ward.

//Also while discharging no instructions were given to her.//
If this be the case, you can sue in Consumer Court. But have you read the "Discharge Summary". Patients and their attenders usually read only the Bill and not the other papers. Ask your friend, if she got a "Discharge Summary". If not she can very well file a case.

//Then, through her colleague, she got to know that if she doesn’t take rest for about one week, either there will be some problem with her pancreas or her intestine would move down.//
Wrong and Stupid Advice !!!!

//There was a time when the doctors would wait even for weeks together for a successful normal delivery but now they can’t even wait for two hours and do a cesarean which is so painful for the mother.//
You have got to do some research
1. Which is more painful for the mother - 8 out of 10 ladies (today) cry and shout in the labour ward that the pain is inbearable and they want caesarean section. Please note that 20 years ago, NO lady wanted Caesarean section. But now the time has changed
2. Ask any astrologer as to who is coming to them and asking a good time for the delivery of baby - whether the doctor or patient's relative

Please note that My AIM is not defending the hospital. I am posting this to tell you that there are a lot of factual errors (due to ignorance) and assuming wrong facts in the post.
You are free to ask any questions

No back-door entry in public employment

From the Hindu
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2006091113260100.htm&date=2006/09/11/&prd=th&

• Temporary employees have no vested right to be regularised: Supreme Court
• High Courts could not issue directions to regularise services in the absence of any existing vacancies
• Adherence to the rule of equality in public employment a basic feature of Constitution

New Delhi: There is no room for back-door entry in public employment and temporary employees have no vested right to be regularised contrary to the scheme of merit and constitutional provisions, the Supreme Court has held.

A Bench consisting of Justices G.P. Mathur and Dalveer Bhandari held that the High Courts could not issue directions to regularise the services of temporary or ad hoc employees in the absence of any existing vacancies.

Cautioning the High Courts, the Bench said: ``It would be improper for the courts to give directions for regularisation of services of the person who is working either as daily-wager, ad hoc employee, probationer, temporary or contractual employee, not appointed following the procedure laid down under Articles 14 (equality before law), 16 (equality of opportunity in matters of public employment) and 309 (recruitment and conditions of service of persons serving the Union or a State) of the Constitution. In our constitutional scheme, there is no room for back door entry in the matter of public employment.''

The Bench said: ``The Union, the States, their departments and instrumentalities have resorted to irregular appointments, especially in the lower rungs of the service, without reference to the duty to ensure a proper appointment procedure and to permit these irregular appointees or those appointed on contract or on daily wages, to continue year after year, thus, keeping out those who are qualified to apply for the post concerned and depriving them of an opportunity to compete for the post.''

``It has also led to persons who get employed, without following a regular procedure or even through the back door or on daily wages, approaching the courts, seeking directions to make them permanent in their posts and to prevent regular recruitment to the posts concerned."

Writing the judgment for the Bench, Justice Bhandari said: ``It is clear that adherence to the rule of equality in public employment is a basic feature of our Constitution and since the rule of law is the core of our Constitution, a court would certainly be disabled from passing an order upholding a violation of Article 14 or in ordering the overlooking of the need to comply with the requirements of Article 14 read with Article 16 of the Constitution. A regular appointment to a post under the State or Union cannot be made without issuing advertisement and inviting applications from eligible candidates.''

Appellant Surendra Prasad Tewari was appointed by Rajya Krishi Utpadan Mandi Parishad, Uttar Pradesh, on a temporary basis and he continued in the job for 14 years based on interim directions of the court. Ultimately, the Allahabad High Court rejected his plea for regularisation. The Bench confirmed the High Court order and rejected his appeal seeking to quash the impugned judgment.

© Copyright 2000 - 2006 The Hindu

Population in Tamil Nadu

Category---------------Population(2001)------% of Total Population----------% of Reservation at present
Backward Classes-------2,87,93,980-----------46.14%-------------------------30%
Most Backward Classes--1,08,77,310-----------17.43%-------------------------20% (for MBC and DC)
Denotified Communities---21,46,755------------3.44%-------------------------
Scheduled Classes------1,18,57,504-----------19.00%-------------------------18%
Scheduled Tribes----------6,51,321------------1.04%-------------------------1%
Others-------------------80,78,809-----------12.95%-------------------------No reservation
Total------------------6,24,05,679----------100.00%-----

How Private Banks are killing Village Economy

Poor people like me have to put a money (which I may need for my higher education or hospital expenses for my wife's delivery) in a bank and BE ASSURED THAT I WILL GET THAT MONEY BACK

How can I trust that in Private Banks

WHat do you tell about the Private banks that vanished overnight with the hard earned money of middle class people

Just because some one whom you may not like has done it, nationalisation of banks is not bad

Can you answer this question : Which Private Bank has branches in Villages ??

Private organisations will be there only in places where they can have profit. They WILL NEVER be for the people. In fact of the restraints , the difficulties willbe comparitevely less if an enterprise is started in a village
1. Low electricity tariff
2. Low tax rates
3. Even the telephone bill will be lower for villages

So The problem is not with the government (in this regard).... I agree that privatisation is the need of the hour, but NOT in essential services like banks, education etc

When ICICI can operate in Mumbai, what prevents it from opening a branch in a village

Why is that we have only Indian Overseas Bank and Canara Bank opening their branches in Villages

Very Simple : ICICI will open a branch ONLY if it is profitable
State Bank of India will open a branch EVEN IF IT A LOSS to serve the poor

Privatisation BEFORE DEVELOPMENT will lead to VILLAGERS HAVING Less Money !!!! This is the reality

I am not against privatisation. But Where I differ from many of you is that I DO NOT ADVOCATE INDISCRIMINATE Privatisation just for the sake of privatisation

And banking is one sector which should NOT be forcibly privatised....... You can privatise electricity and telephones fully... but not banking......

ICICI has more than 100 branches.... That means it has got all the licenses ...

How can you tell that LICENCE Raj is preventing it from going to village.... Please don't fool yourself..........

Can you answer this question

1. What license raj is preventing ICICI from opening a branch in village
Answer : Nothing... It is not related to licence... It is related to profit


My question is NOT whether it is profitable for ICICI or not. ... No
My question is whether you should give villagers a bank EVEN when it is NOT profitable for the bank, but Profitable for the villagers...... Yes
Which Bank will open in a village for the benefit of people and NOT benefit of bank.... ICICI or State Bank.... State Bank...

So why do you need ICICI..... So that ICICI earns all the profits and cities and gives Nothing to villages
What happens when there is no ICICI or GTB..... The city profits are all earned by State Bank and it opens more branches in villages

Branches opened by banks in Villages before 1970 ......2000
Branches opened by Banks in Villages from 1970 to 1990 ...... 1,20,000

Branches opened by Banks in Villages after 1995 ... NIL.... Reason... Entry of Private Banks... 1. private banks do not open branches in villages because it is not profitable 2. Since the city profits of the govt banks are taken by private banks, they cannot afford to open more branches (in fact there came a VRS and even the city branches of government banks are closing down)

You cannot give cakes to a dead man.... Give bread to the man who is dying..... Stop Private Banks or the Indian Economy will be in Shambles..... You can allow privatisation in other fields like electricity, telephone, radio, tv etc , but NOT at the banking sector

Indian Rural Economy was first shattered by the East Indian Company and then British Rule..... The ecomony resurfaced after independence .......Now you want it to again suffer .........

Because of the Entry of multinational companies there is UN EMPLOYMENT in villages.... The SMALL SCALE industries and COTTAGE Industries are dying........ This is the grim reality... If you do not accept this statement, either you are telling a lie or you do not know english

Rural Economy can grow only when rural people OWN their "own" (may be small) business. Not if they are employed without any job guarantee by a BIG MNC....

Entry of MNC at this stage will only destroy the Rural Economy.......

Government has strangled Industry.... but not the small scale industry.....

If you want your country to grow, every one should be comfortable..... not only the stock markets and the corporates

One more Private Bank Steals Public Money

One more private bank AGAIN has stolen hard earned money of poor guys like me
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=73288

Needless to say, the Government will merge it with some Public Sector Banks that are performing well and in which the customer can be relaxed that his money is in safe hands....

First we had the Global Trust Bank which stole public Money
Now we have one more bank

And there will be many more AS LONG AS WE HAVE Advertisements for these thieves by few guys with vested interest (who are probably bribed by such cheats) who praise such money swindlers in their blog and advice innocent lay public against Govt Banks....

One so called elite blogger (they give the title among themselves) says at http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2005/06/ignoring-economic-freedoms.html and http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2005/10/real-scandal.html that the
1970s was the darkest decade of economy as the banks were nationalised

He has no answer as this week has become the darkest week for all those who had been lured by such mongers and have deposited their hard earned (earned by working and not licking some boss at MNC) money in such banks

Another guys who does not have the simple capacity of holding to his job and was fired from IBM for inefficiency () has as per http://gauravsabnis.blogspot.com/2006/04/not-surprisingly-sbi.html

convinced them and a few other relatives to shut off their accounts in all nationalised banks and shift to private banks.

It is a honest request to the readers of this blog not to be carried away by the brainwashing that has been done by those who do it for Bones Dollars