Search

If you cannot locate what you want to find, please search using the box given below

Tuesday, December 25, 2007

Christmas Special - The Gift of the Magi

Lots of stories, novels, poetry have been based on Love. Almost every tamil movie is based on love. And Kollywood has given us some bizarre forms of love, including Love without seeing, love without speaking, glossectomies (Livingstone) , corneal transplants (Ajith, Partibhan) etc

But none has expressed the basis of love - Mutual Sacrifice as lucid and simple as O.Henry in his short story "The Gift of Magi" about which I had already blogged at The Gift of Magi - Story of most intense love CLick the Link to read the story

Now let us see some interesting questions

Question 1: How many kings visited Jesus with Gifts as soon as he was born in Bethlehem
Answer 1: The Wise Men are given the names Gaspar, Melchior, and Balthasar in this Romanesque mosaic from the Basilica of St Apollinarius in Ravenna, Italy. In fact, their number is unknown as it was never stated in the Bible; only that there were three gifts — the supposition that this implied three givers is speculation. Three of the gifts are explicitly identified in Matthew — gold, frankincense and myrrh — and have become one of the best known items from Matthew.

Question 2: What are their names
Answer 2: West : the names have been settled since the 8th century as Caspar, Melchior and Balthasar.
But wait !!!, we do have other names also
Ethiopian : Hor, Karsudan, and Basanater.
Armenians : Kagbha, Badadakharida and Badadilma.
Syrian Christians : Larvandad, Gushnasaph, and Hormisdas.

Question 3: Where and when did they meet Jesus
Answer 3: According to the chronology in Luke, the family left Bethlehem soon after arriving, when Jesus was forty days old, but according to Matthew, the Magi visited Jesus in Bethlehem when he was at a house. This raises the question of how the family has its own home in the town when the Magi visit, having only been able to have a stable when Jesus was born. However, Matthew does not say the house belonged to Joseph and Mary.

It is also entirely possible that when the Magi visited, Joseph and Mary were no longer in Bethlehem. Matthew never actually says that they are in Bethlehem at the time of the visit of the Magi. Since Joseph and Mary traveled to Jerusalem for the circumsicion of Jesus and her offering after her purification 40 days later it is plausible that they were either in Zacharius and Elizabeth's house or had procured a house of their own within the two years from the time of Jesus' birth and the visit of the Magi.

Most modern scholars believe that the author of Matthew is fairly clear in this chapter that the family had lived for some time in the town, and was likely originally from Bethlehem, thus it is logical for them to have a house. This reading does contradict Luke's story of the emergency trip to the town, however, a view which those who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible naturally do not feel able to support. These inerrantists instead believe that either that the couple found a house very quickly, i.e. in less than forty days, while Mary had only just given birth, or that, contrary to the views of almost all scholars of linguistics, house should be translated instead as village. Those not willing to accept that one of the two Gospels is outright wrong, but still willing to accept that Matthew and Luke cannot be exactly synchronised, generally feel that the Magi visited several months after the birth of Jesus, and Luke has got wrong the length of time that the family stayed in Bethlehem.

Another theory is that the Magi visited about two years after the birth of Jesus, explaining why Herod, thwarted in his plans, later ordered the death of children aged two years and younger. For many, especially believers in inerrancy, this settles the seeming contradiction.

For more questions and answers, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Magi

Monday, December 24, 2007

Allied Computers to launch 15K laptops

Allied Computers International has announced that it will be launching Rs 15,000 laptop in January 2008 with production and roll out planned for March 2008.

According to the company, the low cost laptop, industry’ first full featured laptop at this price point, is WiFi ready and runs on VIA 1.0 GHz ULV CPU. The company will be selling the product with 512MB RAM and 40GB HDD.

“Not only is this laptop ideal for first time laptop buyers, the budget price will also ensure that it caters to the future needs of current users,” the company said.

The new laptop has a seven inch TFT screen, weighs 950 grams and has the size of a simple diary to ensure it fits nicely within ones briefcase or carry bag without adding weight to ones shoulder.

While the 15-k laptop will initially be available only in Mumbai, Gujarat, Pune and Delhi, the company is planning to launch it in other Indian cities through its own multi-brand laptop service centres in the metros.

Allied Computers also hopes to cash in on the uniqueness of the product and its price point, and is targeting to sell 50,000 units by the end of fiscal year 2008.

More at http://www.igovernment.in/site/allied-computers-to-launch-15k-laptops/

Sunday, December 23, 2007

Two Users Can Work On The Same Computer At The Same Time

Do you have a spare computer monitor lying unused in some corner of the house? You can easily convert that monitor into a proper PC by just attaching it to one of your existing computers - no additional hardware required.

Details at http://www.labnol.org/software/tutorials/two-users-share-one-computer-work-different/1966/

LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA

POSTED AS RECEIVED

IT IS A BIT TIME CONSUMING TO READ.. BUT IT IS TIME WORTH SPENT.


*LUCIA REVEALS THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA*

Independently of any Creed or Religion, is better to be prepared and be in good terms with GOD, though we never know when we will be leaving this world....

*LAST SECRET OF FATIMA *

The Church has given permission to reveal to the people the last part of the message. The Blessed Virgin appeared to three children in Fatima, Portugal, in 1917, this is a proven fact; one of these children is still alive, her name is Lucia, she is a cloistered nun and lives in a monastery in Portugal. Lucia disclosed the message for the first time to Pope Pius XII whom, after reading it, he sealed it and stored away without making it public. Later Pope John XXIII read it and, in the same manner as his predecessor, he kept it out of the public eye because he knew that once revealed; it will bring desperation and panic to human kind. Now the time has come, and permission has been granted from Pope John Paul II to reveal it to the children of God, in order not to create panic but to make people aware of this important message so everybody can be prepared.

The Virgin told Lucia: "Go my child and tell the world; what will come to pass during the 1950's - 2000's. Men are not practicing the Commandments that our Father has given us. Evil is governing the world and is harvesting hate and resentment all over. Men will fabricate mortal weapons that will destroy the world in minutes, half of the human race will be destroyed, the war will begin against Rome, and there will be conflicts amongst religious orders. God will allow all natural phenomenon's like smoke, hail, cold, water, fire, floods, earthquakes, winds and inclement weather to slowly batter the planet. These things will come to pass before the year 2010. "Those who won't believe, this is the time," your beloved mother told you, "those lacking charity towards others and those who do not love thy neighbor like my beloved Son has loved you, all, cannot survive. They will wish to have died, millions are unimaginable, they will come, and there is no doubt our Lord God will punish severely those who do not believe in him, those who despise him and those who did not have time for him I call upon all of you to come to my son Jesus Christ, God helps the world but all of those who do not show fidelity and loyalty will be destroyed" Father Agustin, who lives in Fatima, said that Pope Paul VI gave him permission to visit sister Lucia who is a cloistered nun (she does not leave the monastery nor is allowed to receive any visitors). Father Augustin said that she received him greatly overwhelmed and told him: "Father, our lady is very sad because nobody is interested in her prophecy of 1917, though the righteous are walking through a narrow path, the evil ones are walking through an ample road that is leading them straight to their destruction, believe me father, the punishment will come very soon." Many souls will be lost; many nations will disappear from the earth. But, in the middle of all these, if men reflect, pray and practice good deeds, the world can be saved. One of all these, if men persist with its evil, the world will be lost forever. The time has come for all to pass on the message of our Blessed Lady to their families, friends, and to the entire world. Start praying, to make penitence and sacrifices. We are at the last minute of the last day and the catastrophes are near. Due to this, many that were far from the church will return to the open arms of the Church of Jesus Christ. The joining of the churches will result in one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church; England, Russia, China, Jews, Muslims and Protestants. All will return believing and worshiping God our creator, in his beloved Son and in our Blessed Mother Virgin Mary".

WHAT AWAITS US???

Every where there will be "Peace Talks", but punishment will come. A MAN IN A VERY IMPORTANT POSITION WILL BE ASSASSINATED AND THIS WILL PROVOKE THE WAR. A POWERFUL ARMY WILL DOMINATE ALL THROUGH EUROPEAN THE NUCLEAR WAR WILL COMMENCE. This war will destroy everything, darkness will fall over us for 72 hours (three days) and the one third of humanity that survives this obscurity and sacrifice, will commence to live a new era, they will be good people. In a very cold night, 10 minutes before midnight, A GREAT QUAKE will shake the earth for 8 hours. This will be the third signal that God is who governs the earth. The righteous and those who propagate the faith and the message of the Lady of Fatima SHOULD NOT FEAR DO NOT BE AFRAID. WHAT TO DO???

Bow your heads, kneel down and ask God for forgiveness because, only what is good and is not under the power of evil will survive the catastrophe. In order for you to prepare and remain alive I will give you the following signs: ANGUISH........ AND IN A SHORT PERIOD THE EARTH QUAKE WILL COMMENCE... THE EARTH WILL SHAKE....The shake will be so violent that will move the earth 23 degrees and it will return it to its normal position. Then, total and absolute darkness will cover the entire planet... All evil spirits will be mingling around and free, doing harm to all those souls that did not want to listen to this message and those who did not want to repent. To the faithful souls, remember to light the blessed candles, prepare a sacred altar with a crucifix in order to communicate with GOD and implore for His infinite mercy.... All will be dark; IN THE SKY A GREAT MYSTIC CROSS will appear to remind us the price that his beloved Son had to pay for our redemption...In the house the only thing that can give light will be the HOLY CANDLES... Once lit, nothing will put them off until the three days of darkness are over. Also, you should have Holy water that should be sprinkled abundantly on windows and doors. The Lord will protect the property of the chosen ones.. Kneel down before the powerful cross of my beloved Son, pray the Rosary and after each Hail Mary you must pray the following: "Oh God forgive us our sins, preserve us from the fire of hell, take all souls to heaven, especially those who are in more need of they mercy. Blessed Virgin Mary protect us, we love you, save us and save the world". Pray 5 Creeds and the Rosary which is the secret to my Immaculate Heart. All those who believe in my words go and take the message to everyone.

DO NOT FEAR. FEAR NOTHING DURING THE LORD'S GREAT DAY. Talk to all the souls. Now that there is time, those who keep quiet will be responsible for all those souls who will perish in ignorance. All those who pray humbly the rosary will have the protection of heaven and those who are bound to die I will help them die in peace and they will be holy when they enter the other world. I wish all my children to attend mass every first Friday and every first Saturday of each month, to confess and receive Holy Communion and in doing so, save the world from its TOTAL DESTRUCTION. WHEN the earth shakes no more, those who still not believe in our Lord will perish in a horrible way. The wind will bring gas and it will disperse it everywhere, then the sun will rise. Maybe you will survive this catastrophe. Do not forget that God's punishment is holy and ONCE IT HAS STARTED YOU SHOULD NOT LOOK OUTSIDE, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, GOD DOES NOT WANT ANY OF HIS CHILDREN TO SEE WHEN HE PUNISHES THE SINNERS....

All this encompasses with the writings of the Holy Scriptures.. Read on the New Testament: Luke: 21 - 5:121, 12:19, 20:20, 29:33 Letters of St Paul 3 - 8 - 14 Isaiah 40, 1:5:9.

You must understand that God allows all this to happen. The Pope and Bishops are now awaiting another message that speaks about repentance and prayer. Remember that Gods words are not a threat, but good news... We do not know if those receiving this message believe or not in GOD, but think that if you are receiving this message is for a reason!! Maybe the Creator is giving us the chance to be saved, no matter what religion or creed. To all those receiving it, they can have the opportunity to judge for themselves.

Remember, we can avoid a great deal if we practice the Commandments that our Father God left us. There are 10 simple things, that if we all put in practice we can obtain God's pardon.

Denmark becomes first open standards country

The Government of Denmark has made it mandatory for all local government bodies and association of Danish regions to use open standards for software from January 1, 2008, unless it significantly increases the costs of the project.

In as decision, which is part of the agreement between the Danish government, local government of Denmark and the association of Danish regions, the country has mandated the use of open standards across both national, regional and local levels of government, reports ePractice.

According the the definition decided by the Government of Denmar, the openness of a standard implies that it must be fully documented and publicly available, besides being freely implementable without economic, political or legal constraints on its implementation and use, now or in the future.

It also means that the standard should be managed and maintained in an open forum via an open process through standardisation organisation.

The country’s decision to use open standards is also aimed at enhancing competition in the software market by making it impossible for vendors to protect a market position just by owning a proprietary standard, thereby leading to lower prices through enhanced competition.

It is also aimed at improving efficiency and effectiveness in the public sector and ensure seamless task flow easily between various systems and organisations.

As per the agreement, all authorities must be able to receive office documents in two open document standards namely ODF and OOXML which allows citizens to communicate with government using open standards.

The country’s National IT and Telecom Agency Deputy Director General Marie Munk said that this agreement is a major breakthrough for IT diversity and free choice of software for citizens.

He further said, “By taking this historical step we hope to inspire other transnational, national, regional and local authorities to gather under the banner of open standards.”

Seven Commandments of Denmark’s open standards

  • Standards for data interchange between public authorities
  • Standards for electronic file and document handling
  • Standards for exchanging documents between public authorities (Open Document Format and Office OpenXML)
  • Standards for electronic procurement in the public sector
  • Standards for digital signatures
  • Standards for public websites / homepages and eAccessibility
  • Standards for IT Security (only within the state sector)


More at http://www.igovernment.in/site/denmark-becomes-first-open-standards-country/

Kolkata most vulnerable to flooding by 2070

Kolkata will be the most vulnerable city affected by coastal flooding by 2070 with the exposed population expected to increase over seven times to more than 14 million people, while Mumbai has the highest number of people exposed to coastal flooding today.

In terms of population exposure, Kolkata is closely followed by Mumbai, Dhaka, Guangzhou, Ho Chi Minh City, Shanghai, Bangkok and Rangoon (Myanmar), according to a new report by the OECD ranking port cities with high exposure and vulnerability to climate extremes.

More at http://www.igovernment.in/site/kolkata-most-vulnerable-to-flooding-by-2070/

Delhi Metro to indigenise sophisticated tools

he Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) has decided to substitute some items of sophisticated equipment like automatic fare control system, signaling and telecommunication under the overall programme of indigenisation.

Announcing this to the Lok Sabha, India’s Minister of State in the Ministry of Urban Development Ajay Maken informed that the DMRC is working towards indigenising these sophisticated equipments. He also informed that the Corporation average earnings per day during the current financial year was Rs 67.63 lakh.

He further said DMRC has fulfilled all its loan repayment commitments till date aggregating to Rs 268.72 crore.

In an initiative to provide welfare services to passengers during the journey, drinking water, toilet facilities, etc. have been provided at stations.

Recently, DMRC introduced feeder buses to carry passengers to and from Metro stations.

From http://www.igovernment.in/site/delhi-metro-to-indigenise-sophisticated-tools/

Saturday, December 22, 2007

IBM promises ‘super-senses’ for doctors

If you thought changes take decades to happen, hold on. The ‘IBM Next Five in Five’ list of innovations predicts that the next five years will see doctors gain technologies that will allow them to gain X-ray like vision to view medical images, super sensitive hearing to find tiniest audio clue in heart beat and ways to organise information in the same way they treat a patient.

According to the list of innovations released on Tuesday, an avatar—a 3D representation of the body—will allow doctors to visualise patients’ medical records in an entirely new way, so they can click on a particular part of the avatar, to trigger a search of their medical records and retrieve information relevant to that part of the body, instead of leafing through pages of notes.

According to IBM, the computer will automatically compare those visual and audio clues to thousands or hundreds of thousands of other patient records, and be able to be much more precise in diagnosing and also treating you, based on people with similar issues and makeup.

The list is based on market and societal trends expected to transform lives of people, as well as emerging technologies from IBM’s Labs around the world that could make these innovations possible, IBM stated.

The Cell Phone Mantra
In the next five years, the mobile phone will be a trusted guide to shopping, banking, touring a new city and much more with new technologies allowing one to use the cell phone to the hilt.

IBM suggests that forthcoming technologies would allow one to take snap of someone wearing an outfit and automatically search the Web to find the designer and the nearest shops that sells the particular dress.

One could then see what that outfit would look like on a personal avatar—a 3-D representation—right on the phone, and the person can ask friends, in different locations, to check it out online and give their opinion.

The mobile phone will also guide one through locations in the city, while automatically providing information regarding local entertainment options, activities, and dining options that match personal preferences, and then make reservations and purchases tickets like a personal concierge.

The Energy Manager
IBM also a range of ‘smart energy’ technologies that make it easier for one to manage ‘carbon footprint’ on the personal front.

A ‘smart’ electric grid would make it possible to turn on and off the data, which begins to run through electrical wires, dishwashers, air conditioners and house lights, using the cell phone or any Web browser.

“Besides sending alerts to turn off appliances, technology will also provide with up-to-date reports of electrical usage, so it can be monitored that how much of energy is spend and how much energy is put out,” the company forecasts.

According to it, intelligent energy grids will also enable utilities to provide with the option for using green energy sources, like solar and wind to fuel home. Innovations in solar and wind technology will bring cost-efficient options to a utility.

Technology For The Road
A coming wave of connectivity between cars and the road is going to change the way people drive, help keep them safe, and even keep out of traffic jams.

Technology is poised to keep traffic moving, cut pollution, curb accidents, and make it easier to get from point A to B, without any stress, IBM stated.

The congested cities will find a solution using intelligent traffic systems that can make real-time adjustments to traffic lights and divert traffic to alternate routes with ease.

A car would have driver-assist technologies that will make it possible for automobiles to communicate with each other and with sensors along the road, allowing them to behave as if they have ‘reflexes’ so they can take preventive actions under dangerous conditions.

IBM also list new technology systems, which will enable you to know the exact source and make-up of the products you buy and consume, thus meeting your proper eating requirement.

Advancements in computer software and wireless radio sensor technologies will give access to much more detailed information about the food one is buying and eating.

With the technology, a person will know everything from the climate and soil in which the food was grown, to the pesticides and pollution it was exposed to, to the energy consumed to create the product, to the temperature and air quality of the shipping containers it traveled through on the way to the person’s dinner table.

IBM further revealed that advanced sensor and tracing systems will tell what to eat, before eating.

Patients Warned Against Opting for Dolphin 'therapy' to Treat Any Disorder

Researchers have warned people suffering from chronic mental or physical disabilities that they should not opt for a dolphin "healing" experience.


Lori Marino, senior lecturer in the Neuroscience and Behavioral Biology Program, and Scott Lilienfeld, professor in the Department of Psychology, has launched an educational campaign against claims made by supporters of what is known as dolphin-assisted therapy (DAT).

"Dolphin-assisted therapy is not a valid treatment for any disorder," said Marino, a leading dolphin and whale researcher.

She added: "We want to get the word out that it's a lose-lose situation for people and for dolphins."

Marino said that swimming with dolphins may be fun and a novel experience but any scientific evidence does not exist for a long-term benefit from DAT.

Simple Strategy to Prevent TB

Researchers have come out with a simple strategy that could prevent most of the fatal tuberculosis infection. The researcher team that included an Indian researcher said that by using a combination of inexpensive infection control in hospitals, half the new cases of extensively drug resistant tuberculosis (XDR TB) could be prevented.


The study was led by Gerald Friedland, M.D., a professor of medicine at Yale School Of Medicine with his team including Sanjay Basu M.D., Ph.D. student at Yale. XDR TB is also dubbed as ‘Ebola With Wings’ owing to its ability to rapidly spread and kill, has been reported in 37 countries and has been identified in all regions of the world, including the United States.

According to the researchers, this disease has turned out to be an epidemic among hospitalized patients in South Africa. Frequent cases of XDR TB are diagnosed every province of South Africa, and are particularly rampant in the area surrounding Tugela Ferry.

In order to examine the spread of XDR TB, the researchers developed a computer model of a virtual world that included data of over two years from Tugela Ferry. This model was 95 pct accurate at calculating XDR trends and other forms of TB in the region.

The study presents the first estimates of the XDR TB burden in South Africa. The model predicted that over 1,300 cases of XDR TB could arise in the Tugela Ferry region by the end of 2012. “It is critically important to take steps now to prevent further spread of XDR TB,” The Lancet quoted Basu, as saying.


He added: “If we wait to act, this form of TB will spread further in the community and beyond borders. When a drug resistant strain hit New York in the 1990s, it cost over $1 billion to bring under control.”


TB is caused by bacteria targeting the lungs and is spread through the air when an infected person coughs or sneezes. A huge majority of the XDR TB cases ios constituted by HIV-positive people, as they have a greater risk of infection.

According to the authors, the best way for effectively tackling this type of TB is to change the healthcare environment. The researchers said that the use of masks alone would prevent less than 10 pct of cases in this general epidemic; however, they could be beneficial to many healthcare workers.

They also indicated that if the time spent in the hospital and shifting to outpatient therapy is reduced, this could prevent almost one-third of cases. The authors also said that nearly half of XDR TB cases could be prevented through managing hospital overcrowding, improving ventilation, enhancing access to HIV treatment, and providing faster diagnostic tests.

Basu said that the problem is multiplied in South Africa with long waiting lists of around 70 patients in the hope of getting admitted to hospitals, and crowded wards with nearly 40 people crammed into a single room.

Some patients even have to sleep on the floor, and a number of them travel for days to reach the hospital. “We can do a lot to change what is going on,” said Dr. Friedland.

He added: “This is a train crash between the two epidemics of HIV and TB, and we have to address both problems together to fix this situation.”

The study is published in a recent issue of Lancet.

Source-ANI
LIN/P

Females' Screaming Make Males to Ejaculate During Sex

Scientists have shed new light on monkeys’ sexual behaviour, by finding that female monkeys may shout during sex to help their male partners climax.


A new study by scientists at the German Primate Center in Gottingen discovered that male Barbary macaques (Macaca sylvanus) almost never ejaculated without these screams.

Female monkeys regularly give out loud, characteristic yells during or after sex. However, the exact purpose behind this behaviour has remained heavily debated.

Thus, to find an answer, the German scientists thoroughly studied Barbary macaques for two years in a nature reserve in Gibraltar.

They found that females shouted during 86 percent of all sexual encounters, reports LiveScience.

When females shouted, males ejaculated 59 percent of the time, they discovered. However, when females did not yell, males ejaculated less than 2 percent of the time.

To determine whether yelling was caused by how vigorous the sex was, the scientists counted the number of pelvic thrusts males gave and timed when they happened.

They found that when shouting occurred, thrusting increased, suggesting that hollering led to more vigorous sex.

Lead researcher Dana Pfefferle, a behavioural scientist and primatologist at the German Primate Center, said that counting monkey pelvic thrusts is 'quite weird, but it's science.'

Male and female Barbary macaques are promiscuous, and often have sex with many partners, meaning that sperm levels can get quite drained. The females yell when they are most fertile, so that males can make the most use of their sperm.


Pfefferle said that her research suggests these calls might also make females more attractive to other males, adding that these shouts might play different roles in other species.

The findings are published online in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

Source-ANI
SRM/P

'Red Ribbon Express' Stationed at Bhopal

World’s largest social mobilisation campaign against HIV/AIDS, ‘Red Ribbon Express’ has reached Bhopal. The campaign educates masses about the deadly virus. A large number of school children, youth and women turned up to witness the informative programme.

December 22 Celebrated as ‘World Orgasm Day’

December 22 will be celebrated as ‘ World Orgasm Day’ by thousands of people worldwide.
According to the official World Orgasm Day website, passionate folks the world over are encouraged to get frisky the same day across the globe.


At the exact moment of the winter solstice, the world is urged to get some action at the second annual Global Orgasm for World Peace.

Last year 1.6million people worldwide took part at 6.08am, for the winter solstice.

This year, the organizers want to synchronize the orgasm with the actual time of the solstice: December 22, 2007, 6:08 (Universal Time, GMT), reports The Sun.

People across the world, but particularly in countries with "weapons of mass destruction and places where violence is used in place of medication,” are being asked to synchronize their orgasms, according to the group's Web site.

This group romping session, known as The Big O, is intented to be an "instantaneous surge of human biological, mental and spirtual energy" that organizers hope will lessen levels of violence, hatred and fear around the world.

However, the website cautions: “Over population is a major cause of peak everything, so please don’t make more babies in the global orgasm.”

Global Orgasm is the brain child of Donna Sheehan and Paul Reffell, co-founders of the anti-war organization Baring Witness, a group of activists who strip to make public peace displays with their naked bodies.

Source-ANI
KAR/M

Crab Shell Makes Surgery Scars Vanish

Scientists have developed a thin polymer bio-film that seals surgical wounds, making surgical stitches an artefact of medical history,

Scientists at the University of New South Wales in Australia say that surgical sutures date back some 4,000 years, so a new approach has been long overdue.

Lack of Sunlight may Increase Lung Cancer Risk

Lack of sunlight may increase the risk of lung cancer, suggests a study of rates of the disease in over 100 countries, published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.


Lung cancer kills over a million people every year around the globe.

The researchers looked at the association between latitude, exposure to ultraviolet B (UVB) light, and rates of lung cancer according to age in 111 countries across several continents.

They took account of the amount of cloud cover and aerosol use, both of which absorb UVB light, and cigarette smoking, the primary cause of lung cancer

International databases, including those of the World Health Organization, and national health statistics were used.

Smoking was most strongly associated with lung cancer rates, accounting for between 75% and 85% of the cases.

But exposure to sunlight, especially UVB light, the principal source of vitamin D for the body, also seemed to have an impact, the findings showed.

The amount of UVB light increases with proximity to the equator. And the analyses showed that lung cancer rates were highest in those countries furthest away from the equator and lowest in those nearest.

Higher cloud cover and airborne aerosol levels were also associated with higher rates of the disease.

In men, the prevalence of smoking was associated with higher lung cancer rates, while greater exposure to UVB light was associated with lower rates.

Among women, cigarette smoking, total cloud cover, and airborne aerosols were associated with higher rates of lung cancer, while greater exposure to UVB light was associated with lower rates.


The associations for a protective role for UVB light persisted after adjusting for smoking.


The link between cancer and sunlight is chemically plausible, say the authors, because laboratory research has shown that vitamin D can halt tumour growth by promoting the factors responsible for cell death in the body.

“Although cigarette smoking is the main cause of lung cancer, greater UVB exposure may reduce the incidence of the disease,” they conclude.

Source-BMJ
SRM/P

Friday, December 21, 2007

Stem-like Cells in Mice may Harbour Breast Cancer Cure

Researchers at the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL) have identified the stem-like cells in mouse breast tissue, which are thought to give rise to cancer.


The mouse-based study, conducted by Senthil Muthuswamy Ph.D., an expert in breast cancer research who heads a CSHL lab focusing on understanding the changes in the biology of breast epithelial cells during the initiation and progression of cancer and Gregory Hannon, Ph.D., CSHL professor and Howard Hughes Medical Institute Investigator, manipulated highly specific gene-regulating molecules called microRNAs in singling out and repressing the stem-like cells.

“If certain forms of breast cancer do indeed have their origin in wayward stem cells, as we believe to be the case, then it is critical to find ways to selectively attack that tumour-initiating population,” Hannon said.

We have shown that a microRNA called let-7, whose expression has previously been associated with tumour suppression, can be delivered to a sample of breast-tissue cells, where it can help us to distinguish stem-like tumour-initiating cells from other, more fully developed cells in the sample. Even more exciting, we found that by expressing let-7 in the sample, we were able to attack and essentially eliminate, very specifically, just that subpopulation of potentially dangerous progenitor cells,” he added.

Muthuswamy emphasized that a key ingredient that made the finding a possibility was the use of a mouse breast-derived model cell system called COMMA-1D that not only includes differentiated cells but also stem-like progenitors, in varying stages of maturity, or differentiation.


The research not only suggests one possible way of accomplishing the therapeutic goal, the Hannon lab researchers are initiating a demonstration study in mice but it also demonstrated that one component of a chemotherapy cocktail currently used as first-line therapy against certain kinds of breast cancer has the potential to actually enrich the subpopulation of stem-like cells that serve as cancer progenitors.


“We found that administration of cyclophosphamide in our mouse cell sample had the effect of enriching for these cells, which suggests that we need to look carefully at these therapies in model systems to see if the effects we see in cell culture are mirrored in real tumours – and then, to gauge what effect that has on metastasis and relapse following therapy,” Hannon said.

The study is published in Genes and Development.

Source-ANI
LIN/P

Thursday, December 20, 2007

Diet Regimen of ‘Medieval’ Humans is Far Healthier Than the Modern Ones

Trying to follow a healthy diet, but don’t know which one? Well, in that case, you should opt for a ‘Medieval’ diet. It has been claimed by a general practitioner that medieval humans might have enjoyed healthier lifestyles than their descendants today because of their diet.


Dr Roger Henderson said that the low-fat, vegetable-rich diet, which was washed down by weak ale, of the medieval people was far better for the heart than today's starchy, processed foods. Henderson added that while the people of those times consumed more food, they burnt off calories in a workout of 12 hours' labour.

However, he submits to the fact that life in those times, for even prosperous peasants was tough. Also, after examining the available records Henderson suggested that medieval meals were perhaps much better than the much-touted "Mediterranean" diet enjoyed by the Romans.

The Mediterranean diet involved fish, fruit, whole grains and olive oil, as well as red wine, but because of the overindulgence of the rich it does not much up to the Medieval diet in which the poor might not always have been able to obtain food for them.

However, the average medieval peasant would have eaten nearly two loaves of bread each day, and 8oz of meat or fish.

The Medieval lifestyle includes:

* Calories: 3,500 - 4,000
* Nearly two loaves of bread
* Three pints of ale
* Up to 12 hours labour each day

All this would have escorted by liberal quantities of vegetables, including beans, turnips and parsnips, and washed down by three pints of ale.


Significantly, there was little refined sugar in their food, while biscuits, cake and sweets dominate modern eating habits. "If you put this together with the incredible work load, medieval man was at much less risk of coronary heart disease and diabetes than we are today," BBC quoted Henderson, as saying.


The Modern lifestyle includes:

* Calories: 2,700
* Fat intake exceeds recommendations
* Less than 20 minutes exercise each day
* Greater risk of heart disease and diabetes

Henderson acknowledged that in today’s time people did have one advantage over their ancestors when it comes to staying alive. "If you got to 30 in those days you were doing well, past 40 and you were distinctly long in the tooth," he said.

Anna Denny of the British Nutrition Foundation said: "This research highlights how much lifestyles have changed over the centuries. Today, the majority of adults in the UK are overweight or obese, but energy intakes have actually been decreasing for several decades.”

Source-ANI
LIN/P

Wednesday, December 19, 2007

Are you an owl or a lark?

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?xml=/health/2002/12/06/hhmt06.xml

There are even medical terms to describe the many people who keep unusual hours. "Someone who suffers from Phase Advance Syndrome will find that no matter how hard they try not to, they will wake up earlier than desired," says Stanley.

"Similarly, people with Phase Delay Syndrome will find themselves awake late into the night."

Studies have shown that genetics could also explain the unconventional hours that larks and owls keep. Four years ago, researchers at Stanford University and the University of Wisconsin identified a gene mutation that seemed to be an indicator for what they called "morningness" and "eveningness".

They found that people with this "clock gene", as they called it, had altered circadian rhythms, and were unable either to go to bed or get up at normal times. Sarah Standing, writer and co-owner of the children's clothes shop Semmalina, says that, like her father, she has always woken up at around 5am.

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?xml=/health/2002/12/06/hhmt06.xml

The human body clock is a precise instrument, telling you what time of day is best for sleep, sex, work - even shaking hands. Ignore it at your peril. By Stefan Klein.
I am perpetually ahead of my wife - by at least one-and-a-half hours. When I urge her to join me in early-morning calisthenics, she crawls back under the covers. When I go to work, she's still reading the paper. In the evening, however, when she's describing her day, I can barely stay awake. All attempts to synchronise our rhythms have failed. Coffee won't perk her up in the morning, or me in the evening. We happily coexist as night owl and early bird.

Ten Vital Tips For A Heart-Healthy Season

The holidays can be a hectic time. A leading cardiologist has 10 tips for getting through the season feeling healthier and less stressed.


“For most of us, even if we’re healthy the rest of the year, holidays can really take a toll on our stress levels and diets,” says Rita Redberg, MD, director of UCSF Women’s Cardiovascular Services and author of numerous books, articles and scientific papers on heart-health and lifetime wellness.

“The average person gains 5 pounds over the holidays, which is hard on the heart,” Redberg adds. “That doesn’t mean it’s a lost cause, though. What’s important to remember, any time we’re trying to improve our health, is that even the smallest changes can have a big impact.”

A heart-healthy lifestyle includes reducing fat and salt in our diets; eating more fish, fruit and vegetables; maintaining our ideal weight and getting plenty of exercise, Redberg says. And she agrees that this can be tough to achieve during a busy holiday season.

So how does a cardiologist make it through December? Among her tips:

* If you have a packed holiday schedule, give the first gift to yourself: Splurge on a healthy treat like out-of-season berries for breakfast and try to do one healthy thing every day.

* Before a party, eat a high-protein snack, such as nonfat yogurt and a piece of fruit. The protein will give you sustainable energy and make it easier to pass up party foods that are high in fat and salt. The fruit will fill you up and help give you the vitamins you need.

* Instead of taking that first glass of wine or champagne, start with a glass of bubbly water, with a squeeze of lime. Many of us drink more alcohol (and calories) than we want because we start out thirsty and want something in our hand. Replace one of those drinks with water, and you've cut 100 or more calories from the evening.

* If you have the choice between olives and canapés or chips, go for the olives – they’re good for your heart, take longer to eat and give you clear evidence (with the pits) of how many you’ve eaten.

* Can’t resist chocolate? Don’t. Instead, look for dark chocolate with intense flavors and savor a small piece of it. If it keeps you from eating that whole box of milk chocolates, it’s done the trick.

* While shopping, instead of cramming into the elevator, take the stairs. Or pass up that parking space closest to the store and walk a little farther. Every step helps.

* For family meals, look for lean cuts of meat, such as flank steak, pork tenderloin, or chicken without the skin, and broil or grill them to reduce the fat.

* When serving potatoes, use yams or sweet potatoes instead to increase vitamins and minerals, and try using low-fat buttermilk instead of butter and cream in mashed potatoes.

* If you find your blood-pressure rising, take a few minutes for yourself. Get a massage or a hot tub at a spa. Even a homemade facial mask or a $5 bottle of bubble bath, used wisely, can give you a season of stress-relief.

* And finally, remember the spirit of the season. Whether we practice a religion or not, this is a time to pause, reflect on our priorities and spend time with people we love. These actions alone will help you create a lifetime of wellness.

Redberg says she generated the tips after years of seeing her cardiology patients struggle to maintain healthy lifestyles during the holidays, either because they felt more stressed during the holidays or because they simply had trouble eating well and exercising.


Heart disease is the leading killer of both men and women in the United States, but most of its effects can be prevented or delayed through small lifestyle changes, Redberg says. What’s most important during the holidays, is to avoid adding further stress to the season by trying to deprive yourself of foods you and your family love, she adds.


“Despite all of the fad diets out there, the current thinking on weight loss and management is not to deprive yourself of the foods you like, but to have them less often or in smaller portions,” Redberg says. “As long as your overall diet is moderate in fat and calories, you’ll still be able to fit in the foods you love.”

Redberg recently co-authored the “Betty Crocker Cookbook for Women, The Complete Guide to Women’s Health and Wellness at Every Stage of Life,” which focuses its 140 heart-healthy recipes on the simple changes women can make for a heart-healthy life.

She wrote the cookbook in response to the tremendous demand for personal health advice that goes beyond “eat well” and “get more exercise,” especially for women as they progress through the many biological and nutritional changes in their lives.

An outspoken leader in the field of cardiology, Redberg has dedicated her career to educating the physician community and patients on women’s unique risk factors for heart disease. She has spoken widely on the subject and also has written several books, including “Heart Healthy: The Step-by-Step Guide to Preventing and Healing Heart Disease.”

She is also widely recognized for her research into the potential value of interventions, especially exercise, to fend off heart disease in women.

Source: UCSF News Service

Source-IANS
LIN/P

Abortion Pills to Hit Italian Markets Soon

Italy's pharmaceutical watchdog in the next few months may approve sales of a pill to end a pregnancy after five to seven weeks, the Corriere della Sera reported Monday.

The French laboratory Exelgyn is seeking authorisation to sell RU 486, an emergency contraceptive with the brand name Mifegyn, in Italy, which could give a green light to the sales by February or March, the newspaper said.

Science of Shivering Unveiled

Scientists at Oregon Health & Science University’s Neurological Sciences Institute have discovered a body system that determines when a person starts shivering.

The researchers have found a sensory mechanism, which takes temperature information from the skin and determines when a person should start shivering.

Kazuhiro Nakamura, Ph.D., an OHSU Fellow for Research Abroad from the Japan Society for the Promotion of Science said that the study shows the sensory pathway for shivering, which can be thought of as brain wiring.

“One fascinating aspect of this study is that it shows the sensory pathway for shivering, which can be thought of as brain wiring, is parallel to but not the same as the sensory pathway for conscious cold detection,” Nature quoted him as saying.

“In other words, your body is both consciously and subconsciously detecting the cold at the same time using two different but related sensory systems,” he added.

Nakamura said that shivering is the last strategy the body uses to maintain its internal temperature to survive in a severe cold environment

“Shivering, which is actually heat production in skeletal muscles, requires quite a bit of energy and is usually the last strategy the body uses to maintain its internal temperature to survive in a severe cold environment.

“Other strategies to defend against the cold, such as reducing heat loss to the environment by restricting blood flow to the skin, also appear to be controlled by the sensory mechanism that we found,” he further added.


The study conducted on rats discovered a sensory pathway from the skin to specialized cells in a portion of the brain called the lateral parabrachial nucleus that transmitted information to another part of the brain called the preoptic area, which decided when the body should start shivering.


Shivering is an automatic and subconscious regulatory function regulated by brain.

Other regulatory functions include the adjustment of breathing rates, blood pressure, heart rate and weight regulation.

The researchers feel that the research would further the knowledge about one of the many functions that our brains are constantly monitoring, responding to and adjusting to keep us alive and healthy.

However, there are conditions like hypothermia and hyperthermia where thermal sensory pathways come into play and knowledge of the brain’s wiring can provide important clues for locating dysfunction in patients with abnormal thermal sensation.

The report has been published in the advance online edition of the journal Nature Neuroscience.

Source-ANI
SRM/P

Tuesday, December 18, 2007

Debate Continues ....

First you please correct your worng points regarding expense of DME


//1)வேலை வாய்ப்பு குறைவாக உள்ள வேளாண்மை படிக்கும் மாணவர்களே சொந்த செலவில் 6 மாதம் கிராமங்களில் தங்கி கற்கிறார்கள் என்பதை சொல்லி இருக்கேன் , அது குறித்து நீங்கள் எதுவும் சொல்லாமல் கவனமாக தவிர்த்து விட்டீர்களே ஏன்?//

I do not know anything about their course. I follow a policy of not commenting in areas where my knowledge is not adequate. I only express my opinion when I know the full facts.

//2) "சர்வ சிக்ஷ்யா அபியான்" திட்டங்களில் m.phil படித்தவர்கள் கூட சொற்ப சம்பளத்திற்கு கிராம பள்ளிகளில் வேலை செய்கிறார்கள். அவர்கள் அதை சேவையாக நினைப்பதால் தானே. அவர்களைப்போல ஆசிரியர்கள் இல்லை எனில் நாளை எப்படி பள்ளி மாணவர்கள் மருத்துவ மாணவர்களா வருவார்களாம்?//
Again this is not my area

//இப்படி பல பேரின் சேவைகளைப்பயன்படுத்தி வாழ்வு பெரும் மருத்துவமாணவர்கள், 8000 ரூபாய் தரும் போது சேவையாக நினைத்து செயல் பட கூடாதா என்று கேட்டேன் அதையும் தவிர்த்து விட்டீகளே ஏன்?//
As you have told, we are asking a proper pay for proper work. FOr example, puratchi tamilan said that he is ready to work FREE of cost. That is his greatness. May be he has other sources of income.

Medical students have to
1. Repay their loans
2. Support their family
3. Save money for their PG Fees, Books etc.

Not all of them are rich. Asking proper pay for proper job is their demand.

I fully appreciate guys like puratchi thamilan who has offered to work free. I am waiting for him to join in his course. (you can also join if you want - again it is left to YOU and no one can compel you) If some one with MPhil is working at 3000 I appreciate them also. But are you sure that they are doing it for charity or with a faint hope that they will be regularised in future. Please be practical.

But there are two issues involved there. That is not compulsary. They are working as per their. Here also we are asking you to work

//3) தனியார் மருத்துவக்கல்லூரிகளில் பணம் அதிகம் என்று ஒப்புக்கொள்கிறீர்களா,//
Yes. I have very clearly given the reason for that. I have also told that the fees is very low in institutions like CMC (which are again private) because in CMC the treatment is charged.

THe cost of medical education is not costly in ALL Private Institutions. It demands on various factors which I have very clearly explained. I have not avoided any question in that area

// ஆனால் அதை நீங்கள் பெரிதாக சொல்லாமல் ரஷ்யாவில் lkg படிச்சாலும் செலவும் ஆகும் என்று வேறு எங்கோ அழுத்தம் தருகிறீர்கள். ஏன்?//

Expense in Russia is a seperate topic. Whatever you learn in russia is costly.

Medical education in private institutions like CMC are very cheap. In few colleges it is costly. It all depends on HOW POPULAR the institute is (Popular for treatment )

//4)ரஷ்யாவில் படிக்கும் முதுகலை படிப்பு இந்தியாவில் mbbs க்கு தான் சமம் என்று நான் காட்டியுள்ளேன், ஆனால் மீண்டும் ...மீண்டும் அங்கே pg படிக்கிறாங்க அதான் வருஷம் கூடுதல் , எனவே அது தவறில்லை என்று சொல்வது ஏன்?
(உண்மைல நீங்க டாக்டர் தானா?)//
The bachelor Degree for Medicine in Russia is Called as MD. That is 6 years. In India it is MBBS (Bachelor of MEdicine, Bachelor of Surgery)

The Masters degree in Russia is again MD. That is two years. In India that is 3 years. In India, masters is MD, MS etc

If you see doctors who have done UG + PG in Russia, they will very clearly put MD (Russia) MD Gen Med(Russia) [There is a cardiologist in Tirunelveli with this qualification]

Other than that the PG Course (MD) of Russia is equal to PG Course in India (MD or MS) and UG Course of Russia (This is also MD) is equal to UG Course of India (MBBS)

SInce you do not know anything about this field, you may be confused. But I have given very clearly. See the Wikipedia once again yourself
----

//5)நான் கேட்பது, dme செலவுகள் பற்றி நீங்கள் சொல்வதற்கு ஆதாரம் தாருங்கள் என்று சொல்வது,...//
For more information anyone interested can refer to :

வரவு செலவு திட்ட வெளியீடு 19
Budget Publication 19

2007 - 2008

விரிவான மானியக் கோரிக்கை
கோரிக்கை எண் 19
மக்கள் நல்வாழ்வு மற்றும் குடும்ப நலத்துறை
Detailed Demand for Grant
Demand No 19
Health and Family Welfare Department

Pages 63 to 164

The detailed expenditure of DME is given that.

Any one can see how miniscule is spend for students and how much is spend for patients

// விளக்குகிறீர்கள் சரி, அப்படி நீங்கள் சொல்வதற்கான மூலம் எது என்று காட்ட சொல்கிறேன். தமிழக அரசின் சுகாதாரத்துறை இணையத்தில் இப்படி தான் போட்டு இருக்குனு சொல்ல முடியுமா? //
Given above.

In the Internet Site, only the Policy note is given. The detailed budget is not given. If you refer the detailed budget you will know.

I have given that also.

(By the way, where did you read that the DME expense is only for Students and drugs of Medical colleges are not involved - No where. It was only your imagination )

//உங்களுக்காக என்பதிவின் சாரம்சத்தை தனி தனி கேள்விகளாக கொடுத்து விட்டேன் வரிசையாக எல்லாவற்றுக்கும் பதில் சொல்லுங்கள், அரைத்த மாவையே அரைக்காதீர்கள்.//

I have also given all the points. You have not asked any specific questions

//நீங்களாகவே மாணவர்களுக்கு, மருந்து, நோயாளிகள் என்று அதில் செலவு செய்றாங்க சொல்றிங்க, நான் கேட்பதெல்லாம் ...."உங்க சொந்த கூற்றை அல்ல அப்படி எங்கே போட்டு இருக்குனு இடத்த காட்டுங்க போதும்".//

I have very clearly given the page numbers of buget. If you can get that (demand no 19) you will see that yourself. Or if you can give the postal address, I will take a Xerox and send that to you.

//ஆதாரம் என்பதன் அர்த்தமே தெரியாத ஒருவர் கூட பேச வச்சுட்டியே ஆண்டவா?//
Me too... You have not given any proof for your claims. Even after your claim has been proved wrong, you do not change yourself

//இதை விட இதில் பெரிய கொடுமை என்ன தெரியுமா நீங்கள் சொல்வது போல மருத்துவக்கல்லூரிகளில் இருக்கும் மருத்துவ மனைகளுக்கு செலவிடப்படுவதாக வைத்துக்கொண்டாலும், வெறும் 17 மருத்துமனைகள் +நோயாளிகள்+ மாணவர்கள் ஆகிவற்றிற்கு செலவு 712.20 கோடி , மிச்சம் இருக்கும் மொத்த தமிழக அரசின் மருத்துவமனைகள் நோயாளிகளுக்கு 1571.68 கோடி.//
Exactly. It is because only in DME we have many superspeciality departments which consume a lot of money.

(Good, Now you have asked a very good question)

For example Stanley hospital has 42 departments (only 20 departments are needed for a medical college).

Cost of treating a patient in a PHC is around 4 Rupees. Except LS, PS no other surgery is done in a PHC. Of the 1417 PHCs, in additional PHCs patients are not admitted over night. Even in Block and UG PHC there is only bread and milk diet. Hence the expenses are less. There are no XRays, USG etc in Additional PHCs. Average OP in a PHC is around 200 per day

----
Cost of treating a patient in a GH will be more than that. Here patients are admitted. X Rays, USG, other costly investigations are done. LSCS (Caesarean is done). Neo born resusitation is done. IOD is given. Hence the cost of treatment in a GH is more as it is a secondary care institute. The average OP for a GH is around 2000 (compare this with an average OP of a PHC). Only 3H Surgeries (Hernia, Hydrocele, Hemorrhoids) are done.

Where is in a medical college, all the complex surgeries are done. the kit for TKR costs around 1.5 lakhs which is given Free TO A PATIENT. Because of the complexities of the process and costly equipments and drugs the money spend per patient in a Medical COllege is more than the money spent per patient in GH / PHC

//6.5 கோடி மக்கள் புழங்கும் மருத்துவ மனைகளுக்கு எவ்வளவு நிதி தேவைப்படும், ஆனால் கொடுக்கவில்லையே என்று மக்கள் உங்களைப்போல கேட்டால் என்ன ஆகும். //

PHC, GH, Medical COlleges are all for 6.5 crore people.

Who said that Medical Colleges are not for these 6.5 crore. It is here you are again mistaken

//இரண்டு செலவீனங்களையும் ஒப்பிட்டுப்பார்த்தாலே சாதாரணமானவர்களுக்கே புரியும் எந்த பக்கம் அதிக நிதி போகிறது என்பது.//
THere is no doubt that There is more money alloted per patient in a GH that per patient in a PHC and more money alloted per patient in a Medical college than per patient in a GH. It is for reasons explained above

// எனவே எப்படிப்பார்த்தாலும் மாணவர்களுக்கான அரசின் செலவு அதிகமா தான் அரசு ஒதுக்குகிறது என்பதில் மறுப்பேச்சுக்கே இடம் இல்லை.//

No. The increased money alloted for Medical Colleges is for the patients and not only for students

//புருனோ இப்படிலாம் ஆதாரம் இல்லாம பேசினாலும், அதிலும் உங்களுக்கே தான் ஆப்பு வருதே... இதான் சொந்த செலவில் சூன்யம் வைத்துக்கொள்வதா? :-))
----------------//
Look at my evidence. It is you who is talking without evidence

//இப்போது மக்களே நீங்களே சொல்லுங்க இதற்கும் மேலும் நான் புருனோவுக்கு விளக்கணுமா என்று!
---------------//
Guys, please tell whether you have any doubts with my explanations or you need more evidence

Open Challenge for Vovval who spreads false propaganda

I think I have given enough proof. (http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/12/challege-to-voval-who-spreads-false.html)

If you want a proof the DME budget also includes the cost of drugs, hospital buildings, nurse salary etc in addition to college buildings, staff pay of 3 departments, I am ready to give you a letter signed by an official of health department.

But do you accept to tender an public apology (in your blog as well as in all the blogs where you have spread false propaganda) when I post that letter

Are you willing to take up this challenge.

(Or if you can give a government order that DME budget is only for students and does not involve expenses for drugs, surgical, staff salary, hospital buildings, CT Scan equipments, lab consumables, I am ready to post an apology)
----
Ready for challenge ???

Debate in Voval's blog

If you want a proof the DME budget also includes the cost of drugs, hospital buildings, nurse salary etc in addition to college buildings, staff pay of 3 departments, I am ready to give you a letter signed by an official of health department.

But do you accept to tender an public apology (in your blog as well as in all the blogs where you have spread false propaganda) when I post that letter

Are you willing to take up this challenge.

(Or if you can give a government order that DME budget is only for students and does not involve expenses for drugs, surgical, staff salary, hospital buildings, CT Scan equipments, lab consumables, I am ready to post an apology)
----
Ready for challenge ???
----


//மேலும் அங்கே internship இரண்டு ஆண்டுகள். ஆக மொத்தம் அங்கே மருத்துவப்படிப்பு மொத்தம் 9 ஆண்டுகள் வருகிறது.//
இதற்கு ஆதாரம் இருக்கா

//3 Directorate of Medical Education 71420.11//

இதில் மாணவர்களுக்காக செலவழிக்கப்ப்டும் தொகை மிக சொற்பமே.
---

இப்பதிவிற்கான மாற்று கருத்துகள்
http://wethepeopleindia.blogspot.com/2007/10/blog-post.html
http://thiagu1973.blogspot.com/2007/12/blog-post.html
http://osaichella.blogspot.com/2007/12/blog-post_13.html

ஆகிய பதிவுகளில் உள்ளது.
--
ஏதேனும் விளக்கம் தேவை யானால்
http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/11/comparing-compulsary-1-year-service-for.html
பின்னூட்டம் இடவும்


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:00 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

Can any one (who is supporting this scheme) tell as to how this scheme is better than the scheme being followed by Tamil Nadu Government
-----
All those who support this new scheme, can you give at least one advantage of this new scheme over the present one


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:36 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

//"dme" க்காக ஒதுக்கப்பட்ட மாணவர்கள் கல்விக்கான தொகை 714.20 கோடி. மொத்த சுகாதார துறை நிதி ஒதுக்கீடு 2285.88 கோடி. , எனவே மொத்த 6.5 கோடி மக்களுக்கான மருத்துவ நிதி ஒதுக்கீடு தொகை 1571.68 கோடி தான் ஆனால் சில ஆயிரங்கள் இருக்கும் மருத்துவ மாணவர்களுக்கு மூன்றில் ஒரு பங்கு நிதி ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஆனால் அரசு என்ன செலவு செய்தது மாணவர்களுக்கு என்று கூசாமல் கேட்கிறார்கள் மாணவர்கள். ஒரு மாணவனுக்கு தலைக்கு சுமார் 10 லட்சம் ஆவது செலவு ஆகும். ஆனால் இவர்கள் அந்த பணத்தை மாணவர்கள் கையில் கொடுக்கவில்லை என்கிறார்கள் போல :-))//

You are totally mistaken.
THe allotment for DME includes the cost of hospital, drugs, salaries etc

I have explained this very clearly at
http://wethepeopleindia.blogspot.com/2007/10/blog-post.html

I request others to read the above post for clarification.

You are trying to mislead every one

//But I suspect the government is also being tricky by not appointing
new doctors and using the trainees to serve the rural public. Very
soon, they will close govt. hospitals and everything will be
privatized. medical insurance companies will make more money. Instead
of improving the service in the govt. hospitals, they are going towards
cutting down the quality of service.//

Well said

---
//
தமிழ் நாட்டில் தான் அதிகம் கவனிக்கப்பட்டது, பிற மாநிலங்களில் அத்தனை தீவிரம் இல்லை.//

It is because the present scheme in Tamil Nadu is far better than this scheme.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:42 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

//எனக்கு தெரிந்து ஐ.ஐ.டி, ஐ.ஐ.ம், (தேசிய அளவிலானவை அவை, இந்தியா முழுக்க மொத்தமே தலா ஒரு 6 இருக்கலாம்)களுக்கு பிறகு அதிக பண ஒதுக்கீடு பெருவது அரசு மருத்துவக்கல்லூரிகள் தான் என நினைக்கிறேன்.அதுவும் முழுக்க முழுக்க மாநில அரசின் நிதி தான்.//

THe actual fact is exactly the opposite

Government (which is giving free treatment) needs to spend the MINIMAL amount for setting up of medical colleges as compared to engineering or other colleges

It is exactly for this reason that in the past 10 years, 8 new government medical colleges have been setup
--
When there is an existing 300 bedded hospital, converting that into a MC is no big deal
--
The expenses for a medical college are for drugs and other issues.

Please see this post http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/01/my-two-seconds-of-fame.html

For doubts, leave a comment and I can reply
----
Any one with minimal mental acumen can easily differentiate the salary of Anat, Physio, Phar departments to Education Subsidy and have the rest of expense (drugs, diet, equipment, expenses involved in treating) all other departments as Health Subsidy.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:43 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

//எங்க வீட்டு பொண்ணு ஒன்னு ரஷ்யாவுலதான் படிக்குது.எம்புட்டு செலவு தெரியுமா//

What is the fees and other expenses for studying Engineering or Literature in Russia.
---
Is that more or less than in India
---
When you are studying in another country, the expense will be more
---
It is so simple


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:45 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

//மேலும் psg முழுக்க தனியார் அல்ல, அங்கே அரசு ஒதுக்கீட்டுல் 50 சதவீத சீட்டுக்கள் நிரப்பனும்.அரசு உதவி பெறும் கல்லூரி என நினைக்கிறேன்.//

PSG தனியார் கல்லூரிதான்.
அங்கே அரசு ஒதுக்கீட்டுல் 50 சதவீத சீட்டுக்கள் நிரப்பனும்.
ஆனால் அது தனியார் உதவி பெறும் கல்லுரி அல்ல


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:45 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

//Total amount spend by DME is 615.20 crores (college + hospital)

Out of which the amount alloted for education (College) (head 12) is 37.88 crores

Fees Collected 36.95 crores (this includes all courses - The Fees for Superspeciality runs in lakhs)//


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 5:50 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

வவ்வால் அவர்களே

DME - Directorate of Medical Education - Controls all medical colleges (17) and medical college hospitals (around 50) - tertiary care hospitals

DMS - Directorate of Medical Services (in fact it is now called as Directorate of Medical and Rural Health Services) - controls abotu 300 GH - secondary care hospitals

DPH - Directorate of Public Health (in fact it is now called as Directorate of Public Health and Preventive Medicine) - controls 1417 Primary Health Centres
----
All these institutions, MC, GH, PHC give treatment totally free of charge.

For this only the government is spending crores of money to give free treatment
---
What you are doing is you are trying to project the amount spend on patients (health subsidy) as the amount spend on students (Education subsidy)
---
The hospital attached with Private medical colleges is like your physics or chemistry lab ... the only purpose for which the lab was started is for the students.... If there are no students, will that lab be open (does that lab function during summer holidays)

Similarly private medical college start an hospital and give free treatment (or treatment at reduced cost) only then there will be some patients...

The private medical colleges COLLECT THE MONEY SPEND ON PATIENTS FROM THE STUDENTS IN THE FORM OF CAPITATION FEES

On the other hand, government does not start any hospital for a medical college. It is just an hospital that is existing.

I request Jayashankar (who is still not clear) to Answer the following question

There is a 600 bed hospital in Erode (that is far greater than the bed limit ) Crores of rupees are spend on that.

Is that for medical students ????

Tomorrow (or next decade) a medical college will be started in Erode... and they need to start just three more departments

Now ... What do you consider is the money spend for "medical education"

(A) The expenses involved with the three new departments (salary, stationary)

(B) The total expenses (Drugs, salary, stationary etc).....

Compare today and tomorrow and then answer :) :) :) :)

Or answer this very simple questions

What is the money government is going to spend per student of Villupuram Medical College "for their education"

(A) The total money spend in 2008 for Villupuram Medical College and Hospital (divided by) Number of students

(B) [The total Money Spend in 2008 for college and hospital (minus) the money spend in 2006 for hospital alone when there were no students ](divided by)[number of students]

Now if you take the PIMS example

Money spend in 2006 (or before starting the hospital) for the hospital is ZERO (because there was no hospital before the medical college was started) but that is not the case of government medical colleges.

We are not finding fault for providing free treatment... In fact we need government to increase health budget... But our concern is NOT TO CONFUSE (even learned educated persons) the subsidy for Health as Subsidy for Education

If there are any doubts in this, I can explain.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 6:06 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

அனைவருக்கும் வேண்டுகோள்
மேலை தந்துள்ள ஆதாரங்கள் மற்றும் தகவல் குறித்து ஏதேனும் சந்தேகங்கள் இருந்தால் http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/11/compulsary-rural-service-for-doctors.html
பதிவில் பின்னோட்டம் இடவும். ஆதாரங்களுடன் பதில் அளிக்கப்படும்.

அதற்கு முன் கீழ்க்கண்ட பதிவுகளை ஒரு முறை வாசித்து விடுங்கள். பெறும்பாலான கேள்விகளுக்கு விடைகள் உள்ளன

http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/04/1-one-year-rural-posting-after-mbbs.html
http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/11/compulsary-rural-service-for-doctors.html
http://wethepeopleindia.blogspot.com/2007/10/blog-post.html
http://thiagu1973.blogspot.com/2007/12/blog-post.html
http://osaichella.blogspot.com/2007/12/blog-post_13.html

வவ்வால் அவர்களுக்கு தனிப்பட்ட வேண்டுகோள்
தயவு செய்து பொய்களை பரப்பாதீர்கள்


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 6:12 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

முக்கிய கருத்து..... DME செலவிடும் பணம் மாணவர்களுக்கு மட்டும் அல்ல.....

நோயாளிகளுக்கு தான்

மாணவர்களுக்கு செலவிடும் தொகை மிக மிக சொற்பம்.

இலவச வைத்தியத்திற்காக செலவிடப்படும் தொகையை மருத்துவக்கல்விக்காக கணக்கிடுவது அபத்தம்


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 6:13 PM, Doctor Bruno said…

"கட்டாய" திட்டத்திற்கு ஆதரவாக எழுதும் நண்பர்கள், தயவு செய்து அத்திட்டம் தற்போதைய திட்டத்தை விட எவ்விதம் சிறந்தது என்று கூறாலாமே !!!
---
இப்பொழுது உள்ள திட்டத்தின் சிறப்புகளை அறியாமல் ஏன் வெட்டி வாதம் !!!!
---
குறைந்த பட்சம் வவ்வால் அவர்களாவது தற்போதைய திட்டத்தை விட எவ்விதம் சிறந்தது என்று கூறாலாமே


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 11:25 PM, வவ்வால் said…

ப்ருனோ,

என்னைப்பொய்களைப்பரப்பாதீர்கள் என்று சொல்வதற்கு முன்னர் அதில் எது பொய் என்று சொல்லுங்கள்!

dme என்பது மருத்துவக்கல்வி ஆனால் நீங்கள் அதில் நோயாளிகளுக்கும் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்று சொல்கிறீர்கள் அதற்கு ஆதாரம் என்ன, நான் முழு , தமிழ் நாடு அரசின் சுகாதார துறை நிதி ஒதுக்கீடையும் போட்டு , 6.5 கோடி மக்களுக்கு கிடைக்கும் தொகை, சில ஆயிரம் மருத்துவ மாணவர்களுக்கு ஒதுக்கப்படும் தொகை என சொல்லி இருக்கிறேன், நீங்கள் அதில் மாணவர்களுக்கு செலவிடப்படுவது குறைவென்றால், 6.5 கோடி மக்களுக்கு மட்டும் என்ன கிடைத்திருக்கும் சொல்லுங்கள்!

அப்போ 6.5 கோடி மக்களை விட சில ஆயிரங்கள் உள்ள மருத்துவ மாணவர்கள் என்ன அத்தனை முக்கியம், அவர்களே மக்களுக்காக தானே!

நீங்கள் சொல்வது பச்சை பொய் என்பதை "we the people" பதிவில் இருந்து நான் அறிந்துக்கொண்டேன், அதை இங்கே இழுக்க வேண்டாம் என்று பார்க்கிறேன், நீங்கள் சுகாதார துறை நிதி ஒதுக்கீட்டையே அங்கே தவறாக தந்துள்ளீர்கள்!

இங்கே அதை சொல்ல வேண்டாம் என்று தான் பார்க்கிறேன்.

இதுக்கு மட்டும் பதில் சொல்லுங்கள் மொத்த சுகாதார நிதியில் 1/3 படிப்பிற்கு அதிலே மாணவர்களுக்கு கம்மியா தான் கிடைக்குதுனா, 2/3 நிதியில் 6.5 கோடி பேருக்கு எவ்வளவு கிடைக்கும் , அரசு என்ன குபேர தீவா, அப்போ மக்களுக்கே ஒன்னும் இல்லைனு ஒத்துக்கிறிங்களா? அரசால் எவ்வளவு தான் நிதி ஒதுக்க முடியும், அரசுக்கு வருவாய் எங்கே இருக்கு, இருக்க நிதில ஒதுக்கிறது அதிகம்னு ஏத்துக்க மனசு ஏன் இல்லை உங்களுக்கு?

இப்பதிவை படிக்கும் மக்களுக்கு நான் தமிழக அரசின் சுகாதார துறையின் நிதி ஒதுக்கீடை உள்ளது உள்ளப்படி தந்துவிட்டேன், சந்தேகம் இருப்பவர்கள், அந்த இணையத்திலும் போய் பார்த்துக்கொள்ளலாம், நான் சொல்வதில் எது பொய் , புருனோ சொல்வதில் எது உண்மை நீங்களே முடிவுக்கு வாருங்கள்.

உங்கள் ஒப்பீடுக்கு
சில ஆயிரம் மருத்துவ மாணவர்கள்(1/3 மொத்த நிதி)=714.20 கோடி
6.5 கோடி மக்கள்(2/3 மொத்த நிதி) =1571.68 கோடி.

யாருக்கு அரசு அதிகம் செலவு செய்கிறது என்பதை மக்களே முடிவு செய்த கொள்ளட்டும்.

இன்னும் சொல்லப்போனால் இப்பதிவில் எனது சொந்த கருத்துக்களே எதுவும் இல்லை. ஆங்காங்கே இருந்து பெற்ற புள்ளி விவரங்கள் மட்டும் உள்ளது. நான் சொல்வது பொய் என்று சும்மா சொல்லிக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறார், அது அரசு சுகாதார துறையின் இணைய தளத்தில் இருந்து எடுக்கப்பட்டது, இணையத்தள முகவரியும் அளித்துள்ளேன் சரிப்பார்த்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டியது தானே!

புருனோ சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு குறைவாக தான் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்றால் அதாரம் தரட்டும், வெறுமனே வாயால் சொன்னால் எப்படி?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 1:49 AM, வவ்வால் said…

புருனோ,

ரஷ்யாவில் மருத்துவப்படிப்பு ஆறு ஆண்டுகள் ,(ஆங்கில வழி), ரஷ்யன் எனில் 7 அண்டுகள், மேலும், அவர்கள் 2 ஆண்டுகள் செய்முறை(internship) அதை ஒரு டிப்ளமோவாக சேர்த்து MD வழங்குகிறார்கள், என்று சொல்லி இருந்தேன்,

ஆதாரம்,
விக்கிபீடியாவிலிருந்து,
சுட்டி,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Russia

//The Bakalavr's degree is awarded in all fields except Medicine after defending a Diploma project prepared under the guidance of a supervisor and passing the final exams. In Medicine, the first stage lasts for six years.//

கவனத்தில் கொள்க முதல் நிலை மருத்துவம் மட்டும் ஆறு ஆண்டுகள். அது "internship" நீங்கலாக.

மற்றும் ஒரு ரஷ்யன் மருத்துவ இணையதளத்திலிருந்து,
//Degree Awarded :
The degree awarded would be the M.D (Physician), which is the basic degree equivalent to the M.B.B.S in India. The degree M.D (Physician) "should not be confused as a post graduate qualification".In case of dentistry the degree awarded would be B.D.S//

அதன் முகவரி,
http://www.globaledru.com/html/russian-medical-universities.shtml

இதில் படித்தால் தெரிவது "internship" இல்லாமல் ஆறு ஆண்டுகள் படிக்க வேண்டியது இருக்கும் என்பது எனது புரிதல். ரஷ்யனில் படித்தால் முதல் கட்டம் மட்டும் 7 ஆண்டுகள், வரும், பின்னர் 'internship" என சொல்லப்படும் இரண்டு ஆண்டுகள் வரும், ஆக மொத்தம் 9 ஆண்டுகள் (8 ஆண்டுகள் ஆங்கில வழியில்), ஆகும், இந்திய அளவிலான mbbs படிக்க ரஷ்யாவில்.

இனிமேல் புருனோ தான் விளக்க வேண்டும், ரஷ்யாவில் படிக்க எத்தனை ஆண்டுகள் ஆகும் என்று.

வருடத்திற்கு சுமார் 12,000 பேர் அங்கே படிக்கப்போறாங்க.

இந்தியா முழுக்க இருக்கும் மருத்துவக்கல்லூரிகளில் இருக்கும் மருத்துவ இடங்கள் 30,000 தான்(தனியார் மற்றும் , அரசுக்கல்லூரிகள் சேர்த்து)
ஆதாரம் :http://www.ekarwar.com/career/medical_profession.htm

அப்போ தோரயமாக 1/3 அளவுக்கு ரஷ்யாவில் போய் மருத்துவம் படிக்கிறாங்க, இந்த கால அளவு மாறினாலும் அவர்களுக்கு நஷ்டமில்லை என்று தானே அங்கே போறாங்க. தமிழ் நாட்டில்(இந்தியாவில்) ஒரு ஆண்டு கூட போனால் வாழ்வே அஸ்தமனம் ஆனது போல புலம்ப்ப காரணம் என்ன?

விடை இருந்தால் கூறவும்!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:17 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

//ப்ருனோ,

என்னைப்பொய்களைப்பரப்பாதீர்கள் என்று சொல்வதற்கு முன்னர் அதில் எது பொய் என்று சொல்லுங்கள்!//
The lie is that the entire DME expense is spent for students

//dme என்பது மருத்துவக்கல்வி ஆனால் நீங்கள் அதில் நோயாளிகளுக்கும் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்று சொல்கிறீர்கள் அதற்கு ஆதாரம் என்ன, நான் முழு , தமிழ் நாடு அரசின் சுகாதார துறை நிதி ஒதுக்கீடையும் போட்டு , 6.5 கோடி மக்களுக்கு கிடைக்கும் தொகை, சில ஆயிரம் மருத்துவ மாணவர்களுக்கு ஒதுக்கப்படும் தொகை என சொல்லி இருக்கிறேன், நீங்கள் அதில் மாணவர்களுக்கு செலவிடப்படுவது குறைவென்றால், 6.5 கோடி மக்களுக்கு மட்டும் என்ன கிடைத்திருக்கும் சொல்லுங்கள்!//
DME is directorate of Medical Education which has 17 medical colleges and around 50 hospitals

The budget is the entire budget of the medical colleges and hospitals

A medical college has around 30 departments

Out of which only 3 are for education (students) the rest are for treating patients

For proof, see http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/01/my-two-seconds-of-fame.html

//போ 6.5 கோடி மக்களை விட சில ஆயிரங்கள் உள்ள மருத்துவ மாணவர்கள் என்ன அத்தனை முக்கியம், அவர்களே மக்களுக்காக தானே!//
The DME expenses are perdominantly for patients. Only a miniscule percent is for students

//நீங்கள் சொல்வது பச்சை பொய் என்பதை "we the people" பதிவில் இருந்து நான் அறிந்துக்கொண்டேன்,//
No chance. I have proved everything

//அதை இங்கே இழுக்க வேண்டாம் என்று பார்க்கிறேன், நீங்கள் சுகாதார துறை நிதி ஒதுக்கீட்டையே அங்கே தவறாக தந்துள்ளீர்கள்!//
No. I have given very clearly. Please see that again. It is you who is not clear what DME is

//இங்கே அதை சொல்ல வேண்டாம் என்று தான் பார்க்கிறேன்.//
No you can tell.

//இதுக்கு மட்டும் பதில் சொல்லுங்கள் மொத்த சுகாதார நிதியில் 1/3 படிப்பிற்கு//
No. The budget is for Patients as well as students. It is here you are mistaken. Please read the wethepeople blog once more

//அதிலே மாணவர்களுக்கு கம்மியா தான் கிடைக்குதுனா, 2/3 நிதியில் 6.5 கோடி பேருக்கு எவ்வளவு கிடைக்கும் //
Patients get a substantial amount in the DME allotment. You are not understanding this

//அரசு என்ன குபேர தீவா, அப்போ மக்களுக்கே ஒன்னும் இல்லைனு ஒத்துக்கிறிங்களா? //
Government spends for patients

//அரசால் எவ்வளவு தான் நிதி ஒதுக்க முடியும், அரசுக்கு வருவாய் எங்கே இருக்கு, இருக்க நிதில ஒதுக்கிறது அதிகம்னு ஏத்துக்க மனசு ஏன் இல்லை உங்களுக்கு?//
The fact is the you are mistaking the health subsidy as education subsidy

Second point is you are not reading my points fully


இப்பதிவை படிக்கும் மக்களுக்கு நான் தமிழக அரசின் சுகாதார துறையின் நிதி ஒதுக்கீடை உள்ளது உள்ளப்படி தந்துவிட்டேன், சந்தேகம் இருப்பவர்கள், அந்த இணையத்திலும் போய் பார்த்துக்கொள்ளலாம், நான் சொல்வதில் எது பொய் , புருனோ சொல்வதில் எது உண்மை நீங்களே முடிவுக்கு வாருங்கள்.

உங்கள் ஒப்பீடுக்கு
சில ஆயிரம் மருத்துவ மாணவர்கள்(1/3 மொத்த நிதி)=714.20 கோடி
6.5 கோடி மக்கள்(2/3 மொத்த நிதி) =1571.68 கோடி.

யாருக்கு அரசு அதிகம் செலவு செய்கிறது என்பதை மக்களே முடிவு செய்த கொள்ளட்டும்.

இன்னும் சொல்லப்போனால் இப்பதிவில் எனது சொந்த கருத்துக்களே எதுவும் இல்லை. ஆங்காங்கே இருந்து பெற்ற புள்ளி விவரங்கள் மட்டும் உள்ளது. நான் சொல்வது பொய் என்று சும்மா சொல்லிக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறார், அது அரசு சுகாதார துறையின் இணைய தளத்தில் இருந்து எடுக்கப்பட்டது, இணையத்தள முகவரியும் அளித்துள்ளேன் சரிப்பார்த்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டியது தானே!

புருனோ சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு குறைவாக தான் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்றால் அதாரம் தரட்டும், வெறுமனே வாயால் சொன்னால் எப்படி?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:21 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

//இப்பதிவை படிக்கும் மக்களுக்கு நான் தமிழக அரசின் சுகாதார துறையின் நிதி ஒதுக்கீடை உள்ளது உள்ளப்படி தந்துவிட்டேன், சந்தேகம் இருப்பவர்கள், அந்த இணையத்திலும் போய் பார்த்துக்கொள்ளலாம், நான் சொல்வதில் எது பொய் , புருனோ சொல்வதில் எது உண்மை நீங்களே முடிவுக்கு வாருங்கள்.//
The budget is true.
But the lie is that the entire DME budget is projected as for students

Students get very minimum from that

//உங்கள் ஒப்பீடுக்கு
சில ஆயிரம் மருத்துவ மாணவர்கள்(1/3 மொத்த நிதி)=714.20 கோடி
6.5 கோடி மக்கள்(2/3 மொத்த நிதி) =1571.68 கோடி.//

This is blatant lie

The DME expense is for 6.5 crore people

//யாருக்கு அரசு அதிகம் செலவு செய்கிறது என்பதை மக்களே முடிவு செய்த கொள்ளட்டும்.//
Without doubt it is for patients only.

//இன்னும் சொல்லப்போனால் இப்பதிவில் எனது சொந்த கருத்துக்களே எதுவும் இல்லை.//
THe fact that the entire DME expense is for students in your own point and that is wrong

//ஆங்காங்கே இருந்து பெற்ற புள்ளி விவரங்கள் மட்டும் உள்ளது.//
I don't refuse that

// நான் சொல்வது பொய் என்று சும்மா சொல்லிக்கொண்டே இருக்கிறார், அது அரசு சுகாதார துறையின் இணைய தளத்தில் இருந்து எடுக்கப்பட்டது,//
I am not refusing the DME budget allotment. I am refusing that it is not a education subsidy. It is a health subsidy

//இணையத்தள முகவரியும் அளித்துள்ளேன் சரிப்பார்த்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டியது தானே!//
Any one can check

//புருனோ சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு குறைவாக தான் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்றால் அதாரம் தரட்டும், வெறுமனே வாயால் சொன்னால் எப்படி?//

I have already given at my blog
http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/01/my-two-seconds-of-fame.html


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:27 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

//புருனோ,

ரஷ்யாவில் மருத்துவப்படிப்பு ஆறு ஆண்டுகள் ,(ஆங்கில வழி), ரஷ்யன் எனில் 7 அண்டுகள், மேலும், அவர்கள் 2 ஆண்டுகள் செய்முறை(internship) அதை ஒரு டிப்ளமோவாக சேர்த்து MD வழங்குகிறார்கள், என்று சொல்லி இருந்தேன், //

I asked Proof for that 2 years. I agree that medical education is russian is 6 years.

Can you cite for the 2 years

//ஆதாரம்,
விக்கிபீடியாவிலிருந்து,//

Evidence for 2 years ??

Please see fully

In Medicine, the first stage lasts for six years.

Holders of the Bakalavr degree are admitted to enter the Specialist Diploma and Magistr's (Master's) degree programmes. The Magistr's (Master's) degree is awarded after successful completion of two years' full-time study.

The two years is for Masters

That is

UG (Bachelor) in Russia - 6 years
PG (Master) in Russia - 2 years

UG + PG in Russia - 8 years

//இனிமேல் புருனோ தான் விளக்க வேண்டும், ரஷ்யாவில் படிக்க எத்தனை ஆண்டுகள் ஆகும் என்று.//

UG (MBBS) - 6 years
UG + PG - 8 years

As per the same reference you gave

India

At present

UG - 5 1/2 years
PG - 3 years

UG + PG - 9 years
If extended
UG + PG - 10 years

//வருடத்திற்கு சுமார் 12,000 பேர் அங்கே படிக்கப்போறாங்க.//
OK

//இந்தியா முழுக்க இருக்கும் மருத்துவக்கல்லூரிகளில் இருக்கும் மருத்துவ இடங்கள் 30,000 தான்(தனியார் மற்றும் , அரசுக்கல்லூரிகள் சேர்த்து)
ஆதாரம் :http://www.ekarwar.com/career/medical_profession.htm//
OK

//அப்போ தோரயமாக 1/3 அளவுக்கு ரஷ்யாவில் போய் மருத்துவம் படிக்கிறாங்க, இந்த கால அளவு மாறினாலும் அவர்களுக்கு நஷ்டமில்லை என்று தானே அங்கே போறாங்க.//
Exactly. They finish UG + PG is 8 years. Isn't it an advantage

// தமிழ் நாட்டில்(இந்தியாவில்) ஒரு ஆண்டு கூட போனால் வாழ்வே அஸ்தமனம் ஆனது போல புலம்ப்ப காரணம் என்ன? //
Because even in russia it is only 8 years (excluding the language) Why make it 10 years in India

//விடை இருந்தால் கூறவும்!//

I have given clearly


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:31 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

There is another myth regarding this 5 and half years.

The student who wrote his +2 in March 2001 completes his internship in Feb 2007.

You decide whether this is 5 and half or 6 :) :) :)
----
Mr.A and Mr.B write +2 in 2001
Mr.A joins Madras Medical College
Mr.B joins in Russia

Mr.A completes MBBS in Feb 2007
He writes PG entrance
He joins MD Gen Med in May 2007
He completes MD Gen Medicine in March 2010

Mr.B gets his Bachelor Degree in 2007 and Masters in 2009 in Russia
--
If extended Mr.A will get his Master only in 2011 - clear 2 years away
--
Hope this explanation is enought
--
Thanks for your Wikipedia link which proved the exact duration of russian study
--
Holders of the Bakalavr degree are admitted to enter the Specialist Diploma and Magistr's (Master's) degree programmes. The Magistr's (Master's) degree is awarded after successful completion of two years' full-time study. Students must carry out a year of research including practice and prepare and defend a thesis which constitutes an original contribution and sit for final examinations.
----
Which is longer, Indian or Russian
----


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:33 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

After obtaining a Specialist's or Master's Degree, a student may enter a university or a scientific institute to pursue postgraduate education. The first level of postgraduate education is aspirantura (аспирантура) that usually results in the Kandidat nauk degree (кандидат наук, Candidate of Sciences). The seeker should pass three exams (in his/her special field, in a foreign language of his/her choice, and in history and philosophy of science), publish at least three scientific articles in peer-reviewed journals, write a dissertation and defend it. This degree is roughly equivalent to the Ph.D. in the United States.
---
The MD / DCh etc is equal to the Master
The Russian PG is equal to PHD
---
Clearly Indian Medical Education at present is more than Russian
--
If extended it will be two years more
---


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:35 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

Myth about SUBSIDY
An engineering college, has many departrments and an administrative office. The administrative office deals with the pay and other functions.
The departments include, Mechanical, Engineering etc in an engineering college and Maths, English etc in an Arts college ( I have no idea about IIM)

The staff include
1. Professors
2. Lecturers
3. Lab Workers
4. Sweepers and Drivers
5. Principal etc

What is the purpose of all these staff... To teach the students......
Suppose students do not join for 5 years........ How much work do these people do..... (You can calculate)

Now come to the budget of the college.
The expenses are the costs involved in
1. Salary
2. Maintenance of the building
3. Papers / Lab articles etc

Now come to the income
1. Fees paid by the students.

Take IIT, IIM or even a government school. Obviously the fees paid is negligible and is about the 5 % of the expenses and the government spends 95 % as a subsidy.

Now come to an UNDERGRADUATE COURSE in a Medical College.

Medical College,as you may know is never a college alone (This is where we differ from the american system of medical school).

By default, it is attached to a Hospital.

A medical college, should have the following departments
1. Anatomy
2. Physiology
3. Biochemistry
4. Pharmacology
5. Pathology
6. Microbniology
7. FM
8. SPM
9. ENT
10. Ophthal
11. Medicine
12. Surgery
13. Paediatrics
14. Ortho
15. OG
16. Radiology
17. Radiotherapy
18. Anaesthesia
19. Dermatology
20 Psychiatry

These 20 departments are must for a medical college. in addition you can have any number of more departments like Urology, Cardiology etc.

All these departments have
1. Professor
2. Assistant Professors
3. Staff Nurse
4. Pharmacist
5. Ward boy
6 Sweeper

in addition the college also has an administrative office. concerned with maintenance of hospital, DRUGS, Equipments etc

Now you see how the budget is used
Expenses
1. Salary
2. Drugs
3. Equipments
4. Maintenance
5. Stationery

Income
1. Fees.
2. Subsidy by the government.

Now comes the important point.

Of the 20 departments(some times even 30), I mentioned, only 3 - Anatomy, Physiology and Pharmacology are exclusively for Students.

ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS are for TREATING PATIENTS

Of the expenses invloved, the expenses that are invovlved towards educating AN MBBS STUDENT is the expense of the salary of the staff of the above 3 departments (out of the 20) and the stationery.

ALL OTHER EXPENSES are for treating PATIENTS

In short, government is subsidising, NO DOUBT, but 98 % of the subsidy is for HEALTH and less than 1.5 % is for Education.

But what will you hear. They will calculate the annual expenses and divide it by the number of students and tell that we are spending lakhs for each doctor.

as voval has done

truth is that EVEN IF A MEDICAL COLLEGE DOES NOT ADMIT MBBS STUDETNS, it will still have 98 % of its expenses for TREATING PATIENTS.

Now come to the Post Graduates..... The government does not even spend that 1.5 % (except for the PGs in the 3 departments I have mentioned).

In other words.....

Let me ask these simple question.

1. What will be the workload of a professor in IIM when students are on strike. Will it increase or decrease
2. What about when a Post Graduate Resident is on strike.

If there are NO STUDENTS JOINING in a course, will you run the course or shut it down. you will shut it down and bring the expenses to ZERO

If you are going to shut down KEM just becasue the PGs are on strike, will the patients allow you.

In other words, is the subsidy the government, WRONGLY AND INTENTIONALLY says that it is giving for Medical Education, a subsidy for educating students or for treating patients.

Treating the patient free or for money is not the theme of this article. I have written this to tell you that the subsidy which we are supposed to get is not for us doctors....... but for the patients


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:41 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

Conclusions

1. The UG course (Bakalavr (Bachelor) degree.) in Russia is 6 years
2. UG Course (bachelor of medicine and bachelor of surgery) at present in India is practically 6 years
3. Masters(Specialist Diploma and Magistr's (Master's) degree programmes. ) in Russia is 2 years
4. Masters (Degree / PG Diploma) in India is 3 years
----
Is there any doubt regarding this
----
By the way, the expenses for any course will be high if done abroad because of Currency conversion and costs associated with hostel and travel.
----


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:45 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

http://www.cep.ru/msumd.shtml

# Pre-university training: prepares international students to study Medicine in Russia language. The programme includes study of Russian language, Biology, Chemistry, and Physics.
Duration of study: 8-10 months.
Tuition fee: USD 2500 (not-including cost of accommodation).
# MD. Faculty of Medicine: The course is taught Russian language only.
Duration of the study: 6 years.
Tuition fee: USD 3600 per year (not-including cost of accommodation).

The language course is not a part of the curriculum.

http://www.spbu.ru/e/Education/educprog/info/medicine.doc

“General Medicine”(MD, 6 years)………….….6000 USD/ acad.year

“General Medicine” (MD USMLE, 6 years)…....7500 USD/acad.year
-----
Russian medical education becomes costly ONLY WHEN YOU CONVERT the currency into rupees. !!! and add the flight charges
--
I am sure that even if you want to study LKG to 5th Standard in Russia, that will run into lakhs !!!!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:46 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

Even Before Villupuram Medical College started, there was an hospital functioning there. DO you agree or Disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College started, patients were getting free treatment.. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villpuram Medical College started, there was an hospital with 238 beds.. DO you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, there were about 3000 persons getting drugs every day from Villupuram Hospital.. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram medical College was started, there were operations taking place at Villupuram Hospital. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, there were deliveries taking place.. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram medical College was started, doctors were working there .. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram medical College was started, staff nurses, Hospital workers were working there .. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, government was spending Crores of Rupees for Villupuram Hospital for the following.....
1. About 10 lakhs Outpatients (365 x 3000) treated every year
2. About 1 lakh inpatients (238x365x1.25) Inpatients treated every year
3. About 3000 Major Surgeries were done
4. About 25000 Minor Surgeries (Surgery, Anaes)
5. About 50000 patients treated in Casualty (Surg, Ortho)
6. About 4000 deliveries (Paed)
7. About 200 LSCS (OG)
8. About 8000 Medico Legal Cases Treated (FM)
9. About 300 Post Mortem Examinations
10.About 3000 Accident Cases (8,9,10 may have some common factors)
11.3 Lakh Lab Investigations (Biochem, Micro and Clinical Path)
12. 3000 X Rays Taken (Radiology)
Now, did government spend for this or not.... Please tell
Was this done for the sake of patients (spend for health) or was this done for the sake of students (Medical Education) ......
Please answer the above questions


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:48 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

67. TUTION FEES per annum in Government Colleges shall be as follows:- (As per G.O.(Ms) No.12, Health & Family Welfare (MCA 1) Department, dated 22-01-2004).
PG Diploma Rs.20,000/-
PG Degree Rs.30,000/-
MDS Rs.30,000/-
M.Ch., (Neuro 5 years) Rs.30,000/-
The above fees structure as applicable from 2004 admission onwards. The selected candidates have to pay the balance of the tuition fees and other special fee etc., at the time of admission in the respective Colleges.
----


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:50 AM, புருனோ Bruno said…

1. Please answer my questions on Villupuram GH / MC

2. Do ask your questions

---


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 10:51 AM, bruno said…

//நீங்கள் சொல்வது சரி தான் மாணவர்கள் அதிக பணம் கொடுத்தால் போதும் அடங்கி விடுவார்கள்,//

Not just money. Permanent Job

//அல்லது, இந்த விதி புதிதாக இனிமேல் சேர்பவர்களுக்கு தான் என்று சொன்னாலும் அடங்கி விடுவார்கள்.//
No. THe issue is permanent job

//அடுத்த வருடம் மருத்துவம் சேரும் போதே விதியினை ஏற்றுக்கொள்வதாக சொல்லி அப்புறம் அப்ளிகேஷன் போடுங்க சொன்னா போடாமலா போய்டுவாங்க!//

Even this year, many left. Next year many more who with high marks and low money will not study medicine.

In the end, medicine will become a profession only for rich
----
We are not asking for permanent jobs for ALL MBBS Graduates.... Please read carefully.... I have already told this time and again

There are two categories of doctors
Category I
1. Children of doctors
2. Children of Politicians, IAS Officers, Judges
They do not want to enter government service. They want to start private practice
Category II
1. Children of Teachers
2. Children of Farmers
3. Children of Shopkeepers
They do not have a nursing home. They want to lead a simple life without getting into "Scan Commission"
Their parents are already retired. They have to support their family as well as their parents.
How if government gives them a permanent job for RS 20000, they are happy.


What is wrong in their demand
What is the logic behind asking those who are not willing to work to work and not giving a job to those who are willing to join
அதன் பதிலை உங்கள் முடிவுக்கே விட்டு விடுகிறேன் .


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 12:52 PM, Bruno said…

//புருனோ சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு குறைவாக தான் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்றால் அதாரம் தரட்டும், வெறுமனே வாயால் சொன்னால் எப்படி?//

If you answer my questions regarding Villupuram GH converted into medical college, you can know the truth !!!

That itself is a proof.

Try to answer that and you can know that without doubt


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 1:35 PM, Bruno said…

//புருனோ சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு குறைவாக தான் செலவிடப்படுகிறது என்றால் அதாரம் தரட்டும், வெறுமனே வாயால் சொன்னால் எப்படி?//

I think I have given enough proof
----
Now you please correct your wrong impressions

WRONG FACT 1. The entire DME budget is for Students
CORRECT FACT 1. The expenses of Anatomy, Physiology, Pharmac are for students (Education Subsidy). The rest are for patients (Health Subsidy). Proof --> Given above

WRONG FACT 2. Duration of Medical Course in Russia is more
CORRECT FACT 2. Duration of UG in Russia is same as in India. Duration of UG+PG in Russia is shorter than in India. Proof --> The same article cited by the blog author

FACT 3. Cost of studying MBBS in Russia is More
Clarification 3. Cost of studying any course in Russia (even LKG or 8th standard) is more because of the currency conversion
----
Any more doubts ??? Tell me and I am ready to answer. Before that, answer all the questions (agree or not) I have asked regarding VIllupuram GH/MC

Please stop false propagandas and stop confusing people :) :) :)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 1:51 PM, Bruno said…

//அல்லது, இந்த விதி புதிதாக இனிமேல் சேர்பவர்களுக்கு தான் என்று சொன்னாலும் அடங்கி விடுவார்கள்.//
For your kind information, this rule is already there in Tamil Nadu --> but at FULL Pay and it is a regular job.

Please see http://bruno.penandscale.com/2007/11/comparing-compulsary-1-year-service-for.html

for the difference between the present scheme in tamil Nadu

---
At present more than 200 doctors are working in this compulsary scheme AT FULL pay at regular posts
---
This is why I have asked voval and his supporters to tell why the scheme they are supporting is superior as compared to the present scheme. SO far there is
no single reply. Every one is very happy at scolding others (sitting in AC !!!) and not giving even a single proof !!!! as to why they are supporting this new scheme instead of the present scheme


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 7:37 PM, Bruno said…

ஏதேனும் அரசு மருத்துவமனையில் இலவசமாக இரண்டு வருடங்கள் , சம்பளமே வாங்காமல் பணிபுரிய புரட்சித்தமிழன் அவர்கள் ஒத்துக்கொண்டார். !!!!

ஆனால் இன்னும் பணியில் சேரவில்லை... ஏன் என்று தெரியவில்லை :) :) :) :)

அவர் அளவிற்கு எங்களால் "இலவச" சேவை செய்ய முடியாது என்பதல், அவருக்கு வாழ்த்துக்கள்.

விரைவில் அவர் தற்பொழுது பார்த்து வரும் வேலையில் இருந்து விடுப்பு எடுத்து இரு வருடங்கள் அரசிற்கு பணிபுரிய வேண்டும் .

அவருக்கு பணி தயாராக இருக்கிறது. எப்பொழுது வேண்டும்மானாலும் வேலையில் சேரலாம்(wihout pay)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 12:15 AM, வவ்வால் said…

அய்யா புருனோ,

உங்களுக்கு எல்லாமே நோ னு தான் தெரியுமா?

அது எப்படி ராசா, ரஷ்யன் M.D இந்திய mbbs க்கு தான் சமம்னு நான் போட்டுள்ளதை மட்டும் கட் பண்ணிட்டு , அங்கே pg பண்றாங்கனு சொல்ல முடியுது! (எத்தனை தடவை ஒரே தகவலை காபி பேஸ்ட் பண்றது)

உங்களுக்கு சமீபத்தில மண்டைல அடி எதாச்சும் பட்டுச்சா! :-))

முதல்ல நான் சொன்னதுக்கு ஆதாரம் என்னனு கேட்டா, உங்க வீணாப்போன பதிவில நீங்க சொன்னது தான் ஆதாரம்னு காட்டுறத நிப்பாட்டுங்க!(நீங்க சொல்றது உங்களுக்கே ஆதாரமா, அட ராமா, ராவணா..)

dme க்குனு இத்தனை கோடி கொடுக்கிறதா அரசு பட்ஜெட் சொல்லுது அதுல மாணவர்களுக்கு கம்மியா தான் கிடைக்குதுனு வாயால நீங்களே சொல்லிக்கிட்டா உண்மையா? எங்கே , எந்த அரசு, தனியார் அப்படி அறிக்கை கொடுத்து இருக்காங்க காட்டுங்க,உங்க பேச்ச எல்லாம் அரிச்சந்திரன் சொன்னதா நம்பணும்னா, அப்படினா நாட்டுல சுப்ரிம்கோர்ட்லாம் வேண்டாமே!

ஆனாலும் உம்ம காமெடிக்கு ஒரு அளவே இல்லை ராசா, சொன்னதையே வாய் வலிக்காம சொல்லிக்கிட்டு(புதுசா தமிழ்ல டைப் பண்ணாத்தானே கை வலிக்க எல்லாம் காபி பேஸ்ட் தானே, முதலில் ஆங்கிலத்தில் அப்படியே காப்பி பேஸ்ட் பண்ற நிப்பாட்டுங்க, நாலு வரியாவது சொந்தமா தமிழில் டைப் பண்ணுங்க)

கல்விக்கான செலவுனு அரசு ஒதுக்குதுனா, அதுல சாக்பீஸ் வாங்கினது, ஆசிரியருக்கு சம்பளம் கொடுத்தது எல்லாமே கல்விக்கான , மாணவர்களுக்காக செய்த செலவு தான்னு சராசரியான புரிதல் உள்ள எல்லாருக்குமே புரியும். மாணவன் கைலவே அந்த நிதிய கொடுத்து உன் இஷ்டம் போல செலவு செய்துக்கோனு சொல்றது தானா கல்வி நிதி! நல்லா இருக்கே உங்க நியாயம்.

தமிழக அரசின் சுகாதார நிதி நிலை அறிக்கையை ஒரு பாமரன் படித்தால் கூட, மருந்து, கிராம, நகர, தாய் ,சேய், இன்ன பிற செலவுக்குனு என்று கிட்டத்தட்ட 10 வகைகளாகப்பிரித்து செலவிட்டு இருப்பதும்,, dme என்ற பெயரில் கல்விக்காக ஒதுக்கீடு செய்து இருப்பதும் தெரியும்.

இதுக்கு மேல இந்த பட்ஜெட் ஒதுக்கீடைப்பத்தி உங்களுக்கு விளக்க தேவை இல்லை, நீங்கள் சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு அந்த நிதி இல்லை என்று சொன்னார், எங்கே , யார் அப்படி சொல்லி இருக்கிறார்கள் என்பதை காட்டவும்.உங்களுக்கு இன்னமும் எந்த பெயரில் எதுக்கு நிதி ஒதுக்கினா எப்படி அதன் செலவீனம் என்பதே தெரியவில்லை, நான் சொல்வது ..செவிடன் காதில் ஊதிய சங்கு தான்!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 1:00 AM, வவ்வால் said…

புருனோ இதை மட்டும் ஆதாரத்துடன் காட்டுங்க,

dme க்கு ஒதுக்கினதுல மாணவர்களுக்கு செலவாகலை, மருத்துவமனைக்கு, நோயாளிக்கு தான் செலவாகி இருக்குனு எதாவது நம்ப தகுந்த ஆதாரம் காட்டுங்க.யூகத்தின் அடிப்படையில் விழுப்புரம் மருத்துவமனை, திண்டிவனம் மருத்துவமனைனு சொல்லாதிங்க அதுக்கு தான் தனியா நிதி அரசு ஒதுக்குதே. எனவே சும்மா நீங்களே சொல்லிக்கிட்டு இருக்காதிங்க.

உங்கள் சொந்த கருத்து அல்லாது, எதாவது ஆதாரம் இருந்தால் தரவும்(இணைய தளம், பத்திரிக்கை செய்தி, அரசு செய்தி குறிப்பு போல), "directorate of medical education" நிதினா அது மருத்துவக்கல்விக்கு தான்(மருத்துவக்கல்லூரி ஆசிரியர்கள் சம்பளம், பியூன் சம்பளம், சாக்பீஸ் வாங்கினது எல்லாம் மருத்துவக்கல்லூரி , மாணவர்களுக்காக தானே), அப்படி இல்லைனா, எதுக்கு எங்கே செலவாச்சுனு காட்டுங்க, மருந்து வாங்கினாங்களா, இல்லை பிரட் வாங்கி தின்னாங்களானு ஆதாரத்துடன் காட்டுங்க.இல்லைனா .....இடத்தை காலி பண்ணவும்.

நான் dme க்குனு நிதினு அரசு ஒதுக்கியது, நோயாளிக்குனு அரசு ஒதுக்கியதுனு காட்டி இருக்கேன்ல அதே போல காட்டுங்க. அதை விட்டு சும்மா ஓலைப்பாய்ல ஒன்னுக்கு போனாப்போல சல சலனு பேசிக்கிட்டு இருக்காதிங்க :-))

மேலும் புரட்சி தமிழன் உங்க கிட்டே என்ன சொன்னார் என்பதுக்கும் என்பதிவில் நான் சொன்னதுக்கும் என்ன சம்பந்தம், அவர் உங்க கிட்டே எதுனா சொன்னா இங்கே வந்து அதை சொல்லி என்னை திசை திருப்ப பார்த்தால் என்ன பயன்.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 1:44 AM, வெட்டிப்பயல் said…

ரஷ்யா வரைக்கும் எல்லாம் போக வேண்டாம் வவ்வால். தமிழ் நாட்டிலே தனியார் கல்லூரிகளில் படிக்க குறைந்த பட்சம் 25 லட்சம் டொனேஷன் தர வேண்டும். வருடத்திற்கு ஒன்றைரையிகிருந்து இரண்டு லட்சம் ஃபீஸ் கட்ட வேண்டும்.

இது அண்ணாமலைல இருந்து ராமத்திந்திரா வரைக்கும் பொருந்தும். மொத்த செலவுனு பார்த்தா 35ல இருந்து 40 லட்சமாகும்.

இவுங்களுக்கு இதே பிரச்சனை தான் வவ்வால். போன ஆட்சில அதிகமா மெடிக்கல் காலேஜ் ஆரம்பிக்க போறோம்னு சொன்னப்ப ஸ்டிரைக் பண்ணி பிரச்சனை பண்ணாங்க. அதுக்கு காரணம் தனியார் கல்லூரிகள் அதிகம் தொடங்கினா தரம் குறைஞ்சிடும், எல்லாரும் பணம் சம்பாதிக்க ஆசைப்பட்டு காலேஜ் திறந்துடுவாங்கனு சொல்லி தடுத்தாங்க.

என்னுமோ இவுங்க மட்டும் காசு சம்பாதிக்க ஆசைப்படாத மாதிரி.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:03 AM, Bruno said…

//அது எப்படி ராசா, ரஷ்யன் M.D இந்திய mbbs க்கு தான் சமம்னு நான் போட்டுள்ளதை மட்டும் கட் பண்ணிட்டு , அங்கே pg பண்றாங்கனு சொல்ல முடியுது! (எத்தனை தடவை ஒரே தகவலை காபி பேஸ்ட் பண்றது)//

Please see the Wikipedia entry.

The two years is for Masters Degree
The six years is for Bachelors

//உங்களுக்கு சமீபத்தில மண்டைல அடி எதாச்சும் பட்டுச்சா! :-))//

I think it is for you

//முதல்ல நான் சொன்னதுக்கு ஆதாரம் என்னனு கேட்டா, உங்க வீணாப்போன பதிவில நீங்க சொன்னது தான் ஆதாரம்னு காட்டுறத நிப்பாட்டுங்க!(நீங்க சொல்றது உங்களுக்கே ஆதாரமா, அட ராமா, ராவணா..)//
I have given the explanation. If you have any doubt in explanation. Please ask. Also I asked you to indicate whether you agree or disagree. you have not answered that

//dme க்குனு இத்தனை கோடி கொடுக்கிறதா அரசு பட்ஜெட் சொல்லுது அதுல மாணவர்களுக்கு கம்மியா தான் கிடைக்குதுனு வாயால நீங்களே சொல்லிக்கிட்டா உண்மையா?//
The DME beuget is for the entire medical college and that includes treatment

//எங்கே , எந்த அரசு, தனியார் அப்படி அறிக்கை கொடுத்து இருக்காங்க காட்டுங்க,//
Please see the budget

//உங்க பேச்ச எல்லாம் அரிச்சந்திரன் சொன்னதா நம்பணும்னா, அப்படினா நாட்டுல சுப்ரிம்கோர்ட்லாம் வேண்டாமே!//
I have shown the proof.

//ஆனாலும் உம்ம காமெடிக்கு ஒரு அளவே இல்லை ராசா, சொன்னதையே வாய் வலிக்காம சொல்லிக்கிட்டு(புதுசா தமிழ்ல டைப் பண்ணாத்தானே கை வலிக்க எல்லாம் காபி பேஸ்ட் தானே, முதலில் ஆங்கிலத்தில் அப்படியே காப்பி பேஸ்ட் பண்ற நிப்பாட்டுங்க, நாலு வரியாவது சொந்தமா தமிழில் டைப் பண்ணுங்க)//
First face facts with facts.

//கல்விக்கான செலவுனு அரசு ஒதுக்குதுனா, அதுல சாக்பீஸ் வாங்கினது, ஆசிரியருக்கு சம்பளம் கொடுத்தது எல்லாமே கல்விக்கான , மாணவர்களுக்காக செய்த செலவு தான்னு சராசரியான புரிதல் உள்ள எல்லாருக்குமே புரியும்.//
I never disputed that. Please see carefully. I have said that the expenses for the 3 departments are for students. The rest are for Patients

// மாணவன் கைலவே அந்த நிதிய கொடுத்து உன் இஷ்டம் போல செலவு செய்துக்கோனு சொல்றது தானா கல்வி நிதி! நல்லா இருக்கே உங்க நியாயம்.//
The expenses incurred towards treating patients is health subsidy and not education subsidy

//தமிழக அரசின் சுகாதார நிதி நிலை அறிக்கையை ஒரு பாமரன் படித்தால் கூட, மருந்து, கிராம, நகர, தாய் ,சேய், இன்ன பிற செலவுக்குனு என்று கிட்டத்தட்ட 10 வகைகளாகப்பிரித்து செலவிட்டு இருப்பதும்,, dme என்ற பெயரில் கல்விக்காக ஒதுக்கீடு செய்து இருப்பதும் தெரியும்.//
No.. The expense for DME is for treating patients as well as for the 3 departments

//இதுக்கு மேல இந்த பட்ஜெட் ஒதுக்கீடைப்பத்தி உங்களுக்கு விளக்க தேவை இல்லை, நீங்கள் சொல்வது போல மாணவர்களுக்கு அந்த நிதி இல்லை என்று சொன்னார், எங்கே , யார் அப்படி சொல்லி இருக்கிறார்கள் என்பதை காட்டவும்.//
There departments of Medicine Surgery are for treating patients

//உங்களுக்கு இன்னமும் எந்த பெயரில் எதுக்கு நிதி ஒதுக்கினா எப்படி அதன் செலவீனம் என்பதே தெரியவில்லை, நான் சொல்வது ..செவிடன் காதில் ஊதிய சங்கு தான்!//
I think I have to tell this for you


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:08 AM, Bruno said…

//புருனோ இதை மட்டும் ஆதாரத்துடன் காட்டுங்க,

dme க்கு ஒதுக்கினதுல மாணவர்களுக்கு செலவாகலை, மருத்துவமனைக்கு, நோயாளிக்கு தான் செலவாகி இருக்குனு எதாவது நம்ப தகுந்த ஆதாரம் காட்டுங்க.//

I have already shown. Only you are refusing to accept

//யூகத்தின் அடிப்படையில் விழுப்புரம் மருத்துவமனை, திண்டிவனம் மருத்துவமனைனு சொல்லாதிங்க அதுக்கு தான் தனியா நிதி அரசு ஒதுக்குதே.//

How ???
It is here you are mistaken

Villupuram GH was under DMS Control till 2006. Now it is under DME control.

SO the expenses incurred in TREATING Patients in Villupuram Hospital will come under DME budget. This is what I am telling for a long time. Can't you understand this simple fact

// எனவே சும்மா நீங்களே சொல்லிக்கிட்டு இருக்காதிங்க.//
I have proved

//உங்கள் சொந்த கருத்து அல்லாது, எதாவது ஆதாரம் இருந்தால் தரவும்(இணைய தளம், பத்திரிக்கை செய்தி, அரசு செய்தி குறிப்பு போல), "directorate of medical education" நிதினா அது மருத்துவக்கல்விக்கு தான்(மருத்துவக்கல்லூரி ஆசிரியர்கள் சம்பளம், பியூன் சம்பளம், சாக்பீஸ் வாங்கினது எல்லாம் மருத்துவக்கல்லூரி , மாணவர்களுக்காக தானே),//
I fully accept the above. In addition the drugs and other expenses are also under DME budget.

// அப்படி இல்லைனா, எதுக்கு எங்கே செலவாச்சுனு காட்டுங்க, மருந்து வாங்கினாங்களா, இல்லை பிரட் வாங்கி தின்னாங்களானு ஆதாரத்துடன் காட்டுங்க.இல்லைனா .....இடத்தை காலி பண்ணவும்.//
Please see the budget yourself

//நான் dme க்குனு நிதினு அரசு ஒதுக்கியது, நோயாளிக்குனு அரசு ஒதுக்கியதுனு காட்டி இருக்கேன்ல//
This is what I am telling. The DME budget is for patients as well as students. Even you have showed that !!! Great

// அதே போல காட்டுங்க. அதை விட்டு சும்மா ஓலைப்பாய்ல ஒன்னுக்கு போனாப்போல சல சலனு பேசிக்கிட்டு இருக்காதிங்க :-))//
It is you who is not giving any proof and using theaterics

//மேலும் புரட்சி தமிழன் உங்க கிட்டே என்ன சொன்னார் என்பதுக்கும் என்பதிவில் நான் சொன்னதுக்கும் என்ன சம்பந்தம், அவர் உங்க கிட்டே எதுனா சொன்னா இங்கே வந்து அதை சொல்லி என்னை திசை திருப்ப பார்த்தால் என்ன பயன்.//
It is not திசை திருப்ப . It is just to make everyone know about his offer to work free


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:09 AM, Bruno said…

//நான் dme க்குனு நிதினு அரசு ஒதுக்கியது, நோயாளிக்குனு அரசு ஒதுக்கியதுனு காட்டி இருக்கேன்ல அதே போல காட்டுங்க. //

THis is what I am telling :) :) :) :)

What more do you want


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:12 AM, Bruno said…

Voval... Please tell the answer for above questions. Tell whether you agree of disagree

Why are you avoiding my questions ????

If you are honest, you have to answer the question

Even Before Villupuram Medical College started, there was an hospital functioning there. DO you agree or Disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College started, patients were getting free treatment.. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villpuram Medical College started, there was an hospital with 238 beds.. DO you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, there were about 3000 persons getting drugs every day from Villupuram Hospital.. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram medical College was started, there were operations taking place at Villupuram Hospital. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, there were deliveries taking place.. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram medical College was started, doctors were working there .. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram medical College was started, staff nurses, Hospital workers were working there .. Do you agree or disagree
Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, government was spending Crores of Rupees for Villupuram Hospital for the following.....
1. About 10 lakhs Outpatients (365 x 3000) treated every year
2. About 1 lakh inpatients (238x365x1.25) Inpatients treated every year
3. About 3000 Major Surgeries were done
4. About 25000 Minor Surgeries (Surgery, Anaes)
5. About 50000 patients treated in Casualty (Surg, Ortho)
6. About 4000 deliveries (Paed)
7. About 200 LSCS (OG)
8. About 8000 Medico Legal Cases Treated (FM)
9. About 300 Post Mortem Examinations
10.About 3000 Accident Cases (8,9,10 may have some common factors)
11.3 Lakh Lab Investigations (Biochem, Micro and Clinical Path)
12. 3000 X Rays Taken (Radiology)
Now, did government spend for this or not.... Please tell
Was this done for the sake of patients (spend for health) or was this done for the sake of students (Medical Education) ......
Please answer the above questions


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:21 AM, Bruno said…

If you answer the above questions, the truth is for every one to see.

I am not sure as to what more proof you want.

What proof do you want ??

Do you want proof for the fact that Even Before Villupuram Medical College started, there was an hospital functioning there.

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram Medical College started, patients were getting free treatment..

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villpuram Medical College started, there was an hospital with 238 beds..

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, there were about 3000 persons getting drugs every day from Villupuram Hospital..

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram medical College was started, there were operations taking place at Villupuram Hospital.

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, there were deliveries taking place..

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram medical College was started, doctors were working there ..

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram medical College was started, staff nurses, Hospital workers were working there ..

Do you want proof for the fact that Even before Villupuram Medical College was started, government was spending Crores of Rupees for Villupuram Hospital for the following.....
1. About 10 lakhs Outpatients (365 x 3000) treated every year
2. About 1 lakh inpatients (238x365x1.25) Inpatients treated every year
3. About 3000 Major Surgeries were done
4. About 25000 Minor Surgeries (Surgery, Anaes)
5. About 50000 patients treated in Casualty (Surg, Ortho)
6. About 4000 deliveries (Paed)
7. About 200 LSCS (OG)
8. About 8000 Medico Legal Cases Treated (FM)
9. About 300 Post Mortem Examinations
10.About 3000 Accident Cases (8,9,10 may have some common factors)
11.3 Lakh Lab Investigations (Biochem, Micro and Clinical Path)
12. 3000 X Rays Taken (Radiology)

Do you want proof for the fact that that government spend for this

Please tell

Do you want proof for the fact that this done for the sake of patients (spend for health) or was this done for the sake of students (Medical Education) ......

There were no medical students in Villupuram in 2006.

Yet government was spending crores of money. But that hospital was under the control of DMS

Now the hospital is under the control of DME. The government will be spending the same amount (for patients) + money for 3 new departments (anat, physio, pharm) for students

The money that was previously spend under DMS will be hereafter reflected in the DME Budget. In addition that money spend for the three new departments will be reflected in the DME Budget.

So DME Budget has two components
1. For patients - Cost of running about 30 departments + cost of drugs
2. For students - cost of running 3departments + cost of staionary for the 3 departments

What you have done is you are mistakenly extrapolated the entire DME budget to students --> that is wrong.

I have given enough proof. Just tell me as to what of the above fact you need proof and I can give.

In case you need proof for anything else also I will collect and give.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

At 9:25 AM, Bruno said…

//தனியார் கல்லூரிகளில் படிக்க குறைந்த பட்சம் 25 லட்சம் டொனேஷன் தர வேண்டும்.//

I have already explained why private colleges are costly, why CMC Vellore is not costly and why government medical education is cheap.

Please see the above post.

I think I have given enough proof.

If you want a proof the DME budget also includes the cost of drugs, hospital buildings, nurse salary etc in addition to college buildings, staff pay of 3 departments, I am ready to give you a letter signed by an official of health department.

But do you accept to tender an public apology (in your blog as well as in all the blogs where you have spread false propaganda) when I post that letter

Are you willing to take up this challenge.

(Or if you can give a government order that DME budget is only for students and does not involve expenses for drugs, surgical, staff salary, hospital buildings, CT Scan equipments, lab consumables, I am ready to post an apology)
----
Ready for challenge ???
----
First read my posts carefully. Just try to answer the questions on Villupuram. The truth is for you to see

Sunday, December 16, 2007

Full of Senses

A man was just coming out of anaesthesia after a series of tests in the hospital, and his wife was sitting at his bedside. His eyes fluttered open, and he murmured, “You’re beautiful”.

Flattered, the wife continued her vigil while he drifted back to sleep. Later, her husband woke up and said, “You’re cute.”

“What happened to ‘beautiful?’” she asked him.

“The drugs are wearing off,” he replied.

From http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/12/08/stories/2007120851740200.htm

Child sexual abuse

The long silence about child sexual abuse seems to be breaking. Work to protect the child, says GEETA PADMANABHAN


BITTER TRUTH Empower children to speak, to confide
The Indian genie in the skit is an instant hit. “Jeeee Boombaa” shout the 400-odd middle and high-school girls of Avvai Home in welcome. Good. Now JB and friends can make their pitch. Using situations familiar to the students, teacher-tra inees and moms in the audience, the Nalamdana troupe unveils its theme: Respect children’s rights to education, medical care and safety from sexual abuse.

The message goes home. Girls climb the stage with feedback. “My body is mine,” says one bravely. “I’ll learn to protect myself. I’ll help my friends in trouble.” A 15-year-old breaks down narrating abuse by an uncle. Another pleads, “If I have rights, why don’t my parents allow me to take part in sports, music and dance?” Finally, the rapid-fire round: “Can we use mobiles to call 1098? Are abusers caught and punished?”

You have to live in an opaque, sound-proof bubble to deny that child sexual abuse (CSA) exists. Hard-drives of documented cases are available with NGOs working in this field (you don’t want to read them). Reports from the media, UNESCO and the government are awash with evidence. The long silence and denial about CSA seem to be breaking. It is mainstream, occupying public and political space. You can’t argue the need for it.

Accept, say the NGOs, and work to protect the child. Know the facts.

There’s a high percentage of child-trafficking in the sex trade. Paedophiles stalk websites in search of unwary, curious kids. Abusers target unsupervised children of busy parents, children from broken families. Kids who run away from home (violence? drunkenness?) are specially vulnerable. Child labourers and street children are easy prey. There is CSA in middle and upper middle-class families; it just goes unreported.

Activists are taking the matter head-on. Nalamdana enacts plays to spread awareness. Tulir talks of safety through posters, billboards, illustrated do’s and don’ts in newspapers and advocacy; it works with sexually abused kids and their families, conducts training workshops. Currently it’s campaigning for a legal definition of child pornography. Ashraya runs workshops in educational institutions and the Police Training College. All of them distribute informative flyers and booklets among schools. Rotary Club has Project Selvi.

Language is an important component.

“It’s a sensitive topic,” said Nitya Balaji of Nalamdana. “So programmes have soft names – safe child, life skill teaching, adolescent health program. Do we talk to kids about their physical and emotional changes in a scientific way?” Vidya Reddy of Tulir wants “shame” removed from the child’s awareness of his body. “Terms should be simple and age appropriate. Saying, ‘Don’t allow anyone to touch you,’ puts the burden of responsibility on the child. Say, ‘It is not all right for anyone to touch you except for medical reasons.’ Empower kids. Their reporting is necessary to ensure their safety.”

Who is an abuser?

There are no psychological tools to profile them. “He could be the “nice” uncle in a stormy home,” said Nitya. “There are far more people with sexual interest in kids than we can count,” warned Vidya. Abuse takes several forms, can happen under a parent’s gaze. Tickling and hugging can be unsafe for the child. “Abusers are manipulative and clever and abuse often goes on for years.” All kids are at risk.

At what age should kids know?

“Good touch and bad touch at the primary level,” said Nandi Shah of Ashraya. “Body parts and functions at secondary, then sexuality, right to privacy, safety and choice. Parents, teachers, care-givers and counsellors should be sensitised and trained to support.” Nitya said, “People will take what they’re capable of. We should impart info in a non-sensational way.”

How does theatre help?

“Theatre has variety- such as role play, puppetry, story telling,” said Nitya. “Children could choose the issues, perform in different languages. Scripts could be based on first-hand stories. Theatre is most effective in schools with kids from challenged homes/backgrounds.” A pre and post performance questionnaire gives direction to Nalamdana’s work. “But counselling by experts must follow.”

What can we do?

Nitya wants a Kids’ Forum. “If kids are trained to retort in groups, the abuser will be kept at bay. Why can’t TV serials mainstream the issue?” Ready and quick help when they need it, said Nandi. “Tell the abused child it is not her fault,” say activists. Listen when they complain, or they’ll clam up. The abuser is often someone the kid loves and trusts or a person in authority. “Take it seriously, without showing alarm or distress,” said Vidya. “Respond calmly and do something about it.”

“Parents should create an atmosphere where the child feels free to talk without fear of ridicule or criticism. Schools must be pro-active on protection against abuse. We need clear, stern laws and a child-friendly investigating system. Or we victimise the child many times over.”

Do you know

Where the kids are and who they are with?

Have open, non-judgmental conversations with kids?

Respect their right to say they don’t like an adult in the family?

Make sure the school has a protection policy?

Find out how the school responds to allegations of abuse?



From http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/12/08/stories/2007120851820200.htm

Saturday, December 15, 2007

Men and Women

* Woman of 35 thinks of having children. What does a man of 35 think of? Dating children.

* Why don’t men have a mid-life crisis? They’re stuck in adolescence.

* How does a man show he’s planning for the future? He buys two cases of beer instead of one.

From http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/12/08/stories/2007120851740200.htm

‘E-governance to ensure transparency’

From http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/14/stories/2007121452780300.htm

‘The Commission will ensure better interaction between the officials and the public’

SALEM: The introduction of e-governance in all government departments will ensure transparency in the administration, Administrative Reforms Commission Chairman A.K. Rajan has said while speaking to the reporters on Wednesday.

E-governance could be introduced to the maximum possible level in departments where public interaction was high, he said

No reply

Mr. Rajan said that many people who participated in the Commission’s meeting expressed that they were not getting any reply from the authorities concerned for their letters and petitions.

‘Sort out’

The Commission asked the officials to sort out this issue and speed up the service delivery to the public, he said.

Meeting

The Commission would find ways and means to ensure better interaction between the officials and the general public, he added.

Earlier, the Commission conducted a meeting with the representatives of non-governmental organisations, general public and officials.

Views

This meeting was to elicit their views on how to ensure transparent governance.

Shimoga first ‘open defecation free district’

Shimoga in Karnataka has achieved the distinction of becoming the first ‘Open Defecation Free District’ under the Total Sanitation Campaign (TSC) in India, way ahead of the year 2009 deadline.

The practice of defecating in the open on the road adjacent to the village pond have been discarded when the message of TSC percolated down to the Emmehatti village of the district, thus benefiting villagers including Hemavathi, the mother of three children—two of them school going girls.

With the help of government grants and their own savings, the family of Hemavathi has erected a toilet with dry areca and coconut leaves as sidewalls and tarpaulin cover as roof.

Emmehatti Gram Panchayat (GP) is one of the 39 GPs in Bhadravati Taluk where all the households now have individual toilets.

The village with a population of nearly 3,000 has constructed 246 toilets since the TSC was launched two years ago, and the villagers feel that the toilets help not only women but also the sick and disabled in the house.

To change the age old practice of defecation in the open is a complex issue related to habits, myths, ignorance, socio-economics, technicalities and space. In an effort to meet this challenge, the TSC in Shimoga has laid more emphasis on creating awareness about the need for good sanitation facilities at the grass root level.

Slogans like ‘one temple for each village’, ‘one toilet for each house’ and ‘toilet is important to protect ones honour’ have been successful in driving home the importance of toilets in everyday life, thus managing to convert the mindset of the people thereby radically transforming old habits.

Community participation and social responsibilities have also been the two major factors responsible for the tremendous success of the campaign.

The 23 Gram Panchayats from Shimoga that won the Nirmal Gram Puraskar during the previous year have been the models, with the success of Sanitation Saga in Shimoga proving that consistent and sustained efforts can yield results.

—By Pallavi Chinya (Deputy Director (M&C) of Press Information Bureau, Bangalore)
From http://www.igovernment.in/site/shimoga-becomes-first-%e2%80%98open-defecation-free-district%e2%80%99/

Friday, December 14, 2007

Programmer and his wife

A typical conversation between a computer programmer-husband, returning late from work, and his wife.

Husband: Good evening dear, I am now logged in.

Wife: Have you brought the ring?

Husband: Bad command or filename.

Wife: But I told you in the morning.

Husband: Erroneous syntax.

Wife: At least, give me your credit card, I want to do some shopping.

Husband: Sharing violation. Access denied...

Wife: Do you love me or do you only love computers or are you just being funny?

Husband: Too many parameters. Abort!

Wife: It was a grave mistake that I married an idiot like you.

Husband: Data type mismatch.

Wife: You are a useless nut.

Husband: Default parameter.

Wife: What about your salary ?

Husband: Access denied. File in use.

Wife: Who was in the car this morning?

Husband: System unstable. Press Ctrl + Alt + Del to reboot
From http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/12/08/stories/2007120851740200.htm

After MBBS: India's medical education now at par with US

After MBBS: India's medical education now at par with US

..... so that every one can fly abroad .....

Should we take pride in something that makes our talents fly out ????

India to set up integrated trauma centre network

The Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs in India on Thursday gave its approval for setting up an integrated network of trauma centres along the Golden Quadrilateral, North-South and East-West Corridors of the National Highways.

The integrated trauma centre network will be set up by upgrading the trauma care facilities in 140 identified state government hospitals.

Setting up of the integrated network will ensure that each accident victim on these corridors is able to get competent medical assistance within the shortest possible time thereby saving precious lives.

The 140 identified hospitals, including 20 Level I trauma centres, 40 Level II trauma centres and 80 Level III trauma centres, will be upgraded at a total cost of Rs 732.75 crore during the XIth Five Year Plan period.

Japan takes Web 2.0 route for citizen services

The Government of Japan has decided to adopt open Web 2.0 architecture to create an integrated and inherently secure network, which would enable the country provide a true one-stop service infrastructure for better citizen services delivery.

To take this forward, Japan has already selected Sun Microsystems to create an architecture and a secure network, to be called Trusted Network, that will help the country leverage information technology (IT) for better government to citizens transactions.

According to the company, its solution includes OpenSolaris OS, Sun Java System Identity Manager software, Sun Java Composite Application Platform Suite and Sun Ray thin clients.

More at http://www.igovernment.in/site/japan-takes-web-20-route-for-better-citizen-service/

Thursday, December 13, 2007

Female Foeticide - What others say

Difficult to prove

Under the Pre-conception and Pre-natal Diagnostic Techniques Act (Prohibition of Sex Selection) (PCPNDT), doctors are punishable with imprisonment and fine, and there are special provisions for repeat offenders. Even then, the doctors don’t seem too worried. This is because they are catering to a demand and know that many in the society don’t think female foeticide is not a crime to report the offence. When I spoke to some doctors in Dindigul, they told me that the assistants at the clinic maybe revealing the sex of the foetus and not the doctors. When there are many people in a room, how do we prove who is the offender? Sex of a child maybe communicated through visual signs or orally, so there will be no written proof. Sometimes the information is communicated through local slang such as “Natarajan” for boy and “Meenakshi” for girl.
Ramanie Mathew
Legal advisor on gender issues

Legal hurdles
The gynaecologist can be penalised under Section 22 and Section 23 of the PCPNDT Act. First for revealing the sex of the baby and second, for the indirect advertising for aborting a female foeticide. We are planning to file a case against her. The Act is difficult to implement because the monitoring of its implementation is also done by the medical fraternity. Doctors-in-charge may fear social exclusion, if they have to take action against another erring doctor. Evidence of also difficult to get. The woman can be penalised for doing a sex-selective abortion, but the Act recognises that she may have committed it under pressure from family or her husband. Women may not report cases even then, fearing for her family.
A. Gandimathi
Lawyer and activist at CASA

Literate vs. illiterate
In Tamil Nadu alone, the 2001 census taken by the government shows prevalence of the practice among the illiterate and in the rural areas (for every 1,000 boys there are 935 girls among educated sections, 928 among the illiterate and 969 among graduates and above). But, in the rest of India the ratio is worse among the literate (for 1,000 boys there are 920 girls among the illiterate, 808 among the literate and 876 among the graduates and above). Female foeticide is practised with the help of medical professionals. The monitoring of the implementation of the law is also done by those in the profession. So the political will in implementation is lacking. With regard to this case, our organisation is planning to file a case against the accused gynaecologist.
Phavalam
Convener, Campaign Against Sex Selective Abortion (CASA)

Don’t confuse issues
The PCPNDT Act prohibits sex selection, but it needs to be implemented rigorously to serve as a deterrent to doctors who support this practice. One also needs to understand that the woman who goes in for a sex determination of her future child is very often compelled to do so by societal pressures. Punishing her only doubles her burden. Several modifications to legislations, which attempt to make access to abortions difficult for women, have recently been proposed by groups working on this issue, as a possible solution to this problem. The right to abortion is well recognised by several international instruments as a fundamental reproductive right of a woman. Any attempt to deny or restrict access to this right could have catastrophic consequences for women’s health as has been proved by experiences from other countries. Let us also look for long term solutions to this problem by changing the underlying cultural values and not victimise today’s women in an attempt to save tomorrow’s girls. Doctors find it difficult to monitor people in the medical fraternity and book cases against them. The district level monitoring committees, mentioned in the Act, with representatives from various fields should step up their act.
Dr. Subha Sri
Gynaecologist and independent researcher in reproductive health issues
From http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/12/08/stories/2007120851790200.htm

Wednesday, December 12, 2007

London launches mobile ticketing system pilot

In an initiative to allow passengers use their mobile phones to pay for travel on the city’s buses and trains, the London’s transport network, Transport for London, has launched a pilot project for contact-less ticketing system.

London’s transport network, Transport for London, is presently trying out a new service which will allow passengers to use their mobile phones to pay for travel on the city’s buses, underground and trains.

The trial, involving 500 people, was launched on 28 November 2007 and will run for six months until the end of May 2008. If successful, it could see a new phase for contact-less ticketing in the UK capital.

More at http://www.epractice.eu/document/4205

Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Ghosts in ICU

Are there Ghosts in Intensive Care Units...... Read this excellent narrationby a doctor

Indian Medic: Indian Med Blogs Directory

Indian Medic: Indian Med Blogs Directory

Monday, December 10, 2007

HDR Photos - High dynamic range imaging

In computer graphics and photography, high dynamic range imaging (HDRI) is a set of techniques that allows a greater dynamic range of exposures (the range of values between light and dark areas) than normal digital imaging techniques. The intention of HDRI is to accurately represent the wide range of intensity levels found in real scenes ranging from direct sunlight to shadows

For More details, see http://photography-in-tamil.blogspot.com/2007/12/hdr.html

Sunday, December 09, 2007

Are You looking for SRM College Girls Sex Photo Stories

So are the dozen guys who land in this page every day......

Unfortunately, there is nothing in store for you :( :( :(

However, this blog has posts about about Sex as well as College and Students, but not what you may have thought.

Stupidity

"I CAN BE PATIENT WITH STUPIDITY; BUT NOT WITH THOSE WHO ARE PROUD OF IT"

Saturday, December 08, 2007

Downright Stupid !!!!

Why don't the students plan for a better way of Protesting

In democracy, everyone has a right to express his views or bring the essential facts to the attention of others. As I have already told, I am totally against indecent ways of protesting

This is one such indecent as well as Stupid way.

In case you need ideas, look at what Tirunelveli Guys do, innovative, but within limits --> Tonsuring, Angapratashtanam, etc

Details at
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/ramadoss-flooded-with-marriage-offers-from-medicos/53624-3.html

Union Health Minister Anbumani Ramadoss has been flooded with marriage offers by medical students. But if only it was for love!

Armed with roses for the minister, these students want him to marry and accompany them to the rural areas. The students have adopted this novel way to get Ramadoss’ attention after the Health Ministry’s move to increase the duration of the MBBS course, which included a one-year compulsory rural service.

“He is the most eligible man for us because we don’t have an option. He is sending us to the rural areas and we will also get less salary so we need to marry Ramadoss to get us through the difficult times,” Lakshmi, a medical student said.

Instead of agitated protest marches these medical students have taken refuge in a show of love. For them, wedding posters speak louder than words.

“Be our husband and come with us to the villages to protect us. If he (Ramadoss) is so keen on sending us to the villages then he should also be there to support us,” another student Rashmi said.

Define Love

A group of professional people posed this question to a group of 4 to 8 year-olds, "What does love mean?" The answers they got were broader and deeper than anyone could have imagined. See below...

"When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn't bend over and paint her toenails anymore.So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That's love."
Rebecca- age 8

"Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your French fries without making them give you any of theirs."
Chrissy - age 6

"Love is when my mommy makes coffee for my daddy and she takes a sip before giving it to him, to make sure the taste is OK."
Danny - age 7

"Love is when you tell a guy you like his shirt, then he wears it everyday."
Noelle - age 7

"Love is when Mommy gives Daddy the best piece of chicken."
Elaine - age 5

"Love is when Mommy sees Daddy smelly and sweaty and still says he is handsomer than Robert Redford."
Chris - age 7

"Love is when your puppy licks your face even after you left him alone all day"
Mary Ann - age 4


Source: http://sixfaces.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-does-love-mean-from-anitha.html

Spoken English

# At the ground:
-----------------

  • All of you stand in a straight circle.
  • There is no wind in the balloon.
  • The girl with the mirror please comes her...{Means: girl with specs please come here).
# To a boy, angrily:
---------------------
  • I talk, he talk, why you middle middle talk?
# While punishing students:
-----------------------
  • You, rotate the ground four times...
  • You, go and understand the tree...
  • You three of you stand together separately.
  • Why are you late - say YES or NO .....(?)
# While addressing students about Dress Code: (he is very strict abt this )
-----------------------
  • Every body should wear dress to college
  • Boys no proplum
  • Girls are pig proplum . (pig=big) s
  • Girls should wear only slawar no nitee.
  • Girls should not wear T sirt ,U shirt,V shirt.. but if you want to wear .... remove it when inside the campus and put it oout side the campus
# Sir at his best:
---------------
  • Sir had once gone to a film with his wife. By chance, he happened to see one of our boys at the theatre, though the boy did no t see them.
  • So the next day at s school... (to that boy) - "Yesterday I saw you
  • WITH MY WIFE at the Cinema Theatre"
# Sir at his best inside the Class room:
----------------------------------------------
  • Open the doors of the window. Let the atmosphere come in.
  • Open the doors of the window. Let the Air Force come in.
  • Cut an apple into two halves - I will take the bigger half.
  • Shhh...Quiet, boys...the principal JUST PASSED AWAY in the corridor
  • You, meet me behind the class. (Meaning AFTER the class..)
  • This one is cool >> "Both of u three get out of the class."
  • Close the doors of the windows please. I have winter in my nose today...
  • Take Copper Wire of any metal especially of Silver.....
  • Take 5 cm wire of any length....
Last but not the least some experiences ...
  • Once Sir had come late to a college function, by the time he reached, the function had begun, so he went to the dais, and said, sorry I am late, because on the way my car hit 2 muttons (Meaning goats).

At college day 2002:
  • "This college strict u the worry no .... U get good marks, I the happy, tomorrow u get good job, jpr the happy, tomorrow u marry I the enjoy"
At college of engineering fresh years day 2003:
  • "No ragging this college. Anybody rag we arrest the police "

Thursday, December 06, 2007

Medicos, listen!

To commemorate the 40th anniversary if the Littmann brand of stethoscopes, 3M Health Care, a division of 3M India, has organised a contest titled “40 Years of Listening”. The company invites clinicians across the country to submit stories based on their preference to use Littmann stethoscopes.

At the end of the contest period, two best entries will be selected by a panel of judges constituted by 3M. The winning entries will be featured on the Littmann portal www.littmann.com/in and the winners will be presented with a Littmann Electronic Model 3000, the premium model in the range.

The contest period ends on December 31, 2007.
For more details about Littmann Stethoscopes, 40 years of Listening Contest

log on to www.littmann.com/stories/india

From http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/12/06/stories/2007120650380300.htm

Wednesday, December 05, 2007

Visitor from Kerala blamed for chikungunya in Italy town

An unusual outbreak of chikungunya in the Italian city of Ravenna this summer has been blamed on a man from Kerala who came visiting relatives.

In the latest issue of medical journal The Lancet, an Italia University expert has confirmed that the "unusual" virus that affected a northern Italy district was chikungunya, carried to the country by a person from Kerala.

"The virus which spread in Ravenna in northern Italy was carried in the man visiting from India, where there is an epidemic. It spread through the community by mosquitoes commonly found in southern Europe during summer months," Professor Antonio Cassone from Rome's Italia University has been quoted as saying in The Lancet.

According to Cassone, the man from Kerala came to visit relatives in Italy. "Two days after he visited his cousin, he developed fever. This happened on June 23. On July 4, his cousin also got fever. The fever was followed by very painful joints and rashes. Following this, all components in the family got sick," he said.

The Lancet report says while there were only 2-3 patients in the area by June-end, it touched 40 by the beginning of August and climbed to 204 cases by the end of September.

It was difficult initially for local health authorities to pinpoint the virus type. "It was seen that a mosquito was biting and there was high density of mosquitoes. This mosquito was moving and affecting people in the radius of 200 metres, and was capable of biting others. By the end of June, there were two or three patients. The capacity of the mosquitoes became higher and it caused an epidemic in a small area."

"We at the National Reference Laboratory had some alerts. We got evidence of the symptoms which were so very close to chikungunya. We realised there was a very high density of mosquitoes. We got the diagnosis, collected samples of almost all affected inhabitants. Laboratory investigations were not so difficult. For the local authorities, the difficult part was the preparedness, understanding the new symptoms," Cassone said.

The situation in the district is now under control. "There are 10 cases that are still under examination... But the epidemic is closed and over since we did not get any new case of chikungunya after September."

In New Delhi, the National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD) said it had no information on the cause for the Ravenna outbreak. "We do not have any such information but will approach the WHO and ICMR on this soon," said Dr Shiv Lal, Director, NICD.

From http://in.news.yahoo.com/071202/48/6nytf.html

Tuesday, December 04, 2007

Dr. Joseph Thas Siddha Allopathy Tirunelveli: Fifth National Conference on Siddha Medicine for All Ages

Fifth National Conference on
Siddha Medicine for All Ages
8 & 9 December, 2007

For more details Fifth National Conference on Siddha Medicine for All Ages: Dr. Joseph Thas Siddha Allopathy Tirunelveli

Reflections is read in 60 countries .... Wow !!!!

Last month (November 2007) I have had visitors from 60 countries

  1. India
  2. United States
  3. United Kingdom
  4. Canada
  5. United Arab Emirates
  6. Singapore
  7. Australia
  8. Malaysia
  9. Sri Lanka
  10. France
  11. Saudi Arabia
  12. Germany
  13. Norway
  14. Netherlands
  15. Philippines
  16. Hong Kong
  17. Kuwait
  18. Romania
  19. Oman
  20. Spain
  21. Bahrain
  22. Italy
  23. Japan
  24. Israel
  25. Qatar
  26. Vietnam
  27. Ireland
  28. China
  29. South Africa
  30. Russia
  31. Indonesia
  32. Greece
  33. Bangladesh
  34. Myanmar
  35. Belgium
  36. Hungary
  37. Brazil
  38. Afghanistan
  39. Mauritius
  40. Armenia
  41. Denmark
  42. Jamaica
  43. Puerto Rico
  44. Pakistan
  45. Ukraine
  46. Switzerland
  47. Turkey
  48. Mexico
  49. Finland
  50. Portugal
  51. Taiwan
  52. Slovakia
  53. Botswana
  54. Ivory Coast
  55. Thailand
  56. Egypt
  57. Ghana
  58. New Zealand
  59. South Korea
  60. Argentina

Maximum visits were from India and minimum from Argentina

Visitors to this site come searching for.....

Guys who landed at my blog had come here while searching for the following words at various search engines.

  • vi pay commission
  • 6th pay commission scales
  • aipg entrance coaching
  • doctor blog
  • rasputin hemophilia
  • sixth pay commission /blogs
  • sixth pay commission nov 2007
  • tnpsc departmental language +test 2007-08
  • doctor salary
  • tamil phone sex
While I am sure that every one landed at the right place, I am at loss to find where the last search landed and how disappointed the guy would have been to land at this blog :) :) :)

The Supreme Court refuses to stay Venugopal's Removal from Service

The Supreme Court on Monday refused to suspend the operation of the All-India Institute of Medical Sciences and Post Graduate Institute of Medical Education and Research (Amendment) Act that curtails the tenure of P. Venugopal as AIIMS Director and removes him from service.

More at http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/04/stories/2007120491240100.htm

A section of medical students calls off strike

A section of protesting medicos on Monday night called off their strike, while another group decided to continue with the protest.

In response to a request from Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi, the medicos ended the 15-day impasse. Students of Thanjavur, Madurai, Salem, Tiruchi, Theni, Kanyakumari, Vellore Government Medical Colleges and Madras Medical College announced their decision to withdraw the protest. Talks were on to persuade students of six other government medical colleges to do the same. More at http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/04/stories/2007120491050100.htm

How to serve the community

Post inspired by http://vivekspace.com/2007/10/27/why-civil-servants-quit/#comment-16102

sir, the bottom line, i seek guidance as what is the correct course of action for a Man who is out there to Serve People, and subsequently lead a revolution.


Join in Corporate Sector / Start your own business --> Earn enough in a moral and legal way.

If you can sponsor text books for kids in at least one school / one standard, you can do more good yourself.

As a bureaucrat, you are not doing good "yourself". You are just a channel for government doing good. (the problem is that not all bureaucrats are effective, honest channels)

If you can spend Rs 10000 per month FROM YOUR OWN MONEY EARNED THROUGH LEGAL AND MORAL Ways, to gift a book or medicine to the needy, you can do much better service to community than by
1. joining Government Service
2. Entering Politics

There are other priorities / benefits (for example the feel of power) in the above mentioned methods, but the "net good" you can do is always better if you are spending directly from your pocket.

There is one better way than the above --> Spending the earnings of others for the benefit of others - Like what Sri Sathya Sai Baba and Mata Amritananda do... That is the best service to community

Other than that, what I have told you is at individual level

All the best

Monday, December 03, 2007

Caesarean section (C-Section) for Rs 393

So Says Rediff at http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/dec/03medi.htm

I am not able to understand how they fix Rs 393 for Caesarean.
And how come you can treat oral malignancy for less than Rs 200

The entire article is given below for reference

Pulling the plug on inflated medical insurance claims, the Armed Forces Medical College, Pune has brought out a first-of-its-kind standard treatment guideline that specifies the average treatment cost for 35 common diseases.

In many of the cases, the rates are a fraction of what patients have been claiming from insurance companies.

For instance, AFMC points out that the maximum charges for a caesarean section, one of the most common claims reaching insurance companies, will not exceed Rs 5,525 in a tertiary hospital with more than 100 beds.

The same procedure can also be carried out by spending Rs 393 in a single-doctor managed clinic.

On the other hand, insurance company officials said medical bills claimed by policy-holders touch Rs 40,000 to Rs 50,000 for a caesarean case.

Depending on the size of hospital and the seriousness of the disease, a patient suffering from pneumonia can complete his treatment by paying anything between Rs 360 to Rs 4,280.

Similarly, the total cost of treating Japanese Encephalitis could be in the range of Rs 348 to Rs 31,264, but not more.

Insurance companies said the claims are often five to ten times higher than the AFMC rates.

Insurers said the rates fixed by AFMC seem reasonable when compared with the claims reaching them today.

That's because the peak rates are not just determined by the number of beds in the hospital but also by the complication of the illness that requires a patient to be admitted to a tertiary hospital.

HEALTH CHECK
The real cost of treating illnesses (Figures in Rs)
Disease Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Level 4
Diabetes 34,225 35,119 57,027 66,229
Hypertension 4,236 3,909 4,517 23,753
Viral hepatitis 571 840 3,498 17,391
Oral malignancies 189 145 149 24,129
Level 1: Single doctor; 2: 10 to 30 beds; 3: 30 to 100 beds; 4: Above 100
Source: Armed Forces Medical College, Pune

The study was commissioned by the ministry of health and family welfare and the World Health Organisation.

The data is designed to help companies offering medical insurance improve their financial bottom line.

Public sector health insurers generated 62 per cent of the health insurance premiums in 2006-07. However, the business was largely unprofitable since disbursements accounted for 118 per cent of annual premium collections.

The AFMC document, generated after month-long consultations with various stakeholders in the healthcare industry, has four types of costing to take into account the size of the hospital.

AFMC had collaborated with prestigious hospitals like All India Institute of Medical Sciences, Post Graduate Institute of Medical Sciences, Chandigarh, and NIHAMS, Bangalore in preparing the guidelines. All 11 departments in AFMC and 50 to 60 doctors had participated in the programme.

According to a senior official with a public sector non-life insurance firm, companies like Oriental Insurance Co Ltd, National Insurance Co Ltd, New India Assurance Co Ltd and United India Insurance Co. Ltd are planning a joint meeting to discuss how the document can be used while screening the claims.

"Though it is an official document, we cannot follow the costing pattern unless the government notifies it as a national guideline. Even if we offer double the amount mentioned in the document, it will be several times cheaper than the current claims," the official said.

Sunday, December 02, 2007

Know Tamil to get Appointed in Tamil Nadu Government Jobs

General Instructions for TNPSC
http://tnpsconline.tn.nic.in/DOCU/Instrns-Eng.pdf

10. QUALIFICATION IN TAMIL
Every Candidate on the date of the Commission’s Notification for the post should possess an adequate knowledge in Tamil.
Explanation: For this purpose a person will be deemed to possess an adequate knowledge in Tamil. In the case of a post for which the educational qualification prescribed is the minimum general educational qualification and above he must have passed the S. S. L. C. Public Examination with Tamil as one of the languages or Studied the High School course in Tamil
Medium and passed the S.S.L.C Public Examination in Tamil medium or passed the Second Class Language Test (Full test) in Tamil conducted by the Tamil Nadu Public Service Commission.
Note:
Candidates who do not possess an adequate knowledge in Tamil may also apply. If selected, they should pass the Second Class Language Test (Full Test) in Tamil within a period of two years from the date of their appointment, failing which they will be discharged from service.

தமிழகத்தில் அரசு தேர்வாணையம் (TNPSC) மூலம் தேர்தெடுக்கப்படும் அனைவரும் பள்ளிப்பருவத்தில் தமிழ் படித்திருக்க வேண்டும் ஏன்பது கட்டாயம். அல்லது தமிழ் தேர்வு எழுத வேண்டும்..அதில் தேர்ச்சி பெற வேண்டும்..

http://www.targetpg.com/exams/tnpsc/2003/2003tnpscnotify.php

12. LIST OF ENCLOSURES:

The following attested copies of documents should be enclosed along with the filled in application:-

i) Evidence of Date of Birth (S.S.L.C/HSC/TC).

ii) Evidence of qualification. (M.B.B.S. Degree / Provisional Certificate / D.M.&S. Diploma Certificate, P.G. Degree/P.G. Diploma in the Speciality subjects in respect of candidates applying for Specialities) (Mark sheet/or some other certificates will not be accepted). In the case of qualification other than the one specified above, equivalence of qualification should be sent.

iii) Medical Registration Certificate in the State of Tamil Nadu.

iv) Community Certificate from competent authority.

v) "No Objection Certificate" from the employer. (if employed)

vi) A certificate from the Medical Officer to the effect that he/she is a fit person if he/she is a physically handicapped and his/her percentage of physical handicap to be entered therein (if applicable).

vii) A Certificate of Destitute Widow from the Revenue Divisional Officer / Assistant Collector / Sub-Collector (if applicable).

viii) Two identical copies of recent passport size photographs in addition to the one pasted on the application form and another copy on the Identification certificate.

ix) Demand Draft for Rs.125/- towards fees (if applicable).

x) A certificate of Character and Conduct obtained from a responsible person on or after 01.06.2003.

xi) A certificate of Character and Conduct obtained from the Head of the Institution in which the candidate last studied/studying.

xii) Income certificate in respect of Physically handicapped persons who claim fee exemption (if applicable).

xiii) Evidence of Tamil Qualification (Mark sheet showing evidence of having passed in Tamil (i.e. SSLC/HSC).

xiv) Evidence regarding preferential qualification.

xv) Identification certificate and code sheet.

xvi) Declarations with reference to condition numbers (i), (ii), (iii) and (v) under para 2(B) of this Notification should be given in the format attached to the application form along with other particulars duly signed.

The notification was taken from the TNPSC Notification Only.

I am very sure about that.

If you don't have Tamil as Second language in SSLC/ HSC, you have to appear for a "Departmental Exam" in Tamil

http://www.tnpsc.gov.in/Docu/tnameMAY27.pdf Code Number 18

Probation declaration is possible only if

The candidate has studied SSLC / HSC in Tamil

Or

The candidate has passed the Departmental Exam

Steno
http://www.tnpsc.gov.in/notfn/Gr_IV_Ty_Eng.pdf
6(C). KNOWLEDGE OF TAMIL:
Candidates should possess adequate knowledge of Tamil on the date of Notification.
(For details refer Sl.No.10 of Commission’s ‘Instructions etc. to candidates’)

DEO
http://www.tnpsc.gov.in/Docu/not_eng_deo27.pdf
3. Must have studied Tamil under Part-I or Part-II of the Intermediate or Pre-University or
Higher Secondary Course.

Saturday, December 01, 2007

Phones help deliver baby

From http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2618570.html

A Russian woman gave birth by the light of dozens of mobile phones after a power cut plunged a town into darkness.

Emergency generators kicked in to keep incubators going at the local maternity ward at Shelehov in northern Russia.

But the room where Rima Pivovarova, 22, was giving birth was plunged into darkness just as doctors started to try and sort out complications with the delivery.

Quick-thinking nurses borrowed mobile phones from colleagues and other patients and used their light as they delivered the baby.

Nurse Nadezhda Stempkovskaya, who helped deliver the baby, said both mother and son are doing well.
As expected, this incidence has been blogged and few questions are raised

அப்படியென்றால் அழுத்திக்கொண்டிருந்த பனிரெண்டு பேர் யார்?
"Quick-thinking nurses" 12 Phones were used. Not 12 persons were inside the room
மருத்துவர்கள் தவிர்த்து வெளி நபர்கள் பிரசவ அறையில் இருப்பது மருத்துவச் சட்டப்படி குற்றம்.
Is it. Which Law. :) :) :)
What is the definition of " வெளி நபர்கள்"
What about the "Birth Companion Scheme"

தமிழகத்தில் ஒரு மருத்துவரின் பையன் பிரசவம் "பார்த்தது" தவறு என்று குற்றம் சாட்டப்பட்டு தண்டனை வழங்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறது.
Lots of mistakes
1. Seeing a delivery is different from Conducting a delivery
2. Case is still pending in court. Punishment is not yet given

Venugopal removed from AIIMS director's post

From http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/nov/30aiims.htm

Hours after the presidential assent to a bill enabling his removal, the government on Friday sacked eminent cardiac surgeon P Venugopal as AIIMS director. T D Dogra, who heads Forensic Medicines and Toxicology Department and is next to Venugopal in seniority, was appointed AIIMS' acting chief.

The dismissal of 66-year-old Venugopal came shortly after President Pratibha Patil signed the bill passed by Parliament two days ago fixing the age limit of 65 years for AIIMS Director.

Search This Blog

Loading...